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The Mighty Z
03-04-2005, 11:34 AM
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Allright, lovers of horsepower, fast cars, paddock gossip and hot chicks, the new Formula 1 Season kicks off this weekend.
Let's use this thread for info on teams/drivers/tracks.
Previews/Results/Gossip and pics can be posted in here.
To start, here's the official site: http://www.formula1.com/
And another top notch site for the latest news: http://f1.racing-live.com/en/index.html
The Teams & Drivers
Ferrari
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Homepage: Click HERE (http://www.ferrariworld.com/FWorld/fw/events/newf12005/home.jsp?language=en)
Drivers:
M. Schumacher
R. Barrichello
Test Drivers:
L. Badoer
M. Gene
Home Base: Maranello - Italy
Chassis: F2004M
Engine: Ferrari
Tyres: Bridgestone
World Championships: 14
BAR
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Homepage: Click HERE (http://www.barf1.com/home.php)
Drivers:
J. Button
T. Sato
Test Drivers:
E. Bernoldi
A. Davidson
Home Base: Brackley - UK
Chassis: OO7
Engine: Honda
Tyres: Michelin
World Championships: 0
Renault
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Homepage: Click HERE (http://www.renaultf1.com/)
Drivers:
F. Alonso
G. Fisichella
Test Drivers:
F. Montagny
Home Base: Enstone - UK
Chassis: R25
Engine: RS25
Tyres: Michelin
World Championships: 5 as Williams-Renault and 1 as Benetton-Renault
Williams
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Homepage: Click HERE (http://bmw.williamsf1.com/en/index.html)
Drivers:
M. Webber
N. Heidfeld
Test Drivers:
A. Pizzonia
Home Base: Grove - UK
Chassis: FW27
Engine: BMW P84/5
Tyres: Michelin
World Championships: 9
Mc Laren
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Homepage: Click HERE (http://www.mclaren.com/)
Drivers:
K. Räikkönen
J. Montoya
Test Drivers:
P. De La Rosa
A. Würz
Home Base: Woking - UK
Chassis: MP4-20
Engine: Mercedes-Benz FO 110R
Tyres: Michelin
World Championships: 8
Sauber
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Homepage: Click HERE (http://www.sauber.ch/en/home/index.php)
Drivers:
J. Villeneuve
F. Massa
Test Drivers:
N/A
Home Base: Hinwil - Switserland
Chassis: C24
Engine: Petronas 05A
Tyres: Michelin
World Championships: 0
Red Bull
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Homepage: Click Here (http://www.lloydia.com/2005/redbull.htm)
Drivers:
D. Coulthard
C. Klien
Test Drivers:
V. Liuzzi
Home Base: Milton Keynes - UK
Chassis: RB1
Engine: Cosworth Racing TJ 2005
Tyres: Michelin
World Championships: 0
Toyota
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Homepage: Click HERE (http://www.toyota-f1.com/public/index.htm)
Drivers:
J. Tulli
R. Schumacher
Test Drivers:
O. Panis
R. Zonta
Home Base: Köln - Germany
Chassis: TF105
Engine: RVX-05
Tyres: Michelin
World Championships: 0
Jordan
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Homepage: Click HERE (http://www.f1jordan.com/)
Drivers:
T. Monteiro
N. Karthikeyan
Test Drivers:
R. Doornbos
N. Pastorelli
Home Base: Silverstone - UK
Chassis: EJ15
Engine: Toyota
Tyres: Bridgestone
World Championships: 0
Minardi
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Homepage: Click HERE (http://www.minardi.it/)
Drivers:
C. Albers
P. Friesacher
Test Drivers:
C. Nissany
Home Base: Faenza - Italy
Chassis: PS04B
Engine: Cosworth
Tyres: Bridgestone
World Championships: 0
Conman
03-04-2005, 11:41 AM
Previous Winners and Winning Teams
Year ____ Driver _________________ Team
2004 ___ M. Schumacher (Ferrari) ___ Ferrari
2003 ___ M. Schumacher (Ferrari) ___ Ferrari
2002 ___ M. Schumacher (Ferrari) ___ Ferrari
2001 ___ M. Schumacher (Ferrari) ___ Ferrari
2000 ___ M. Schumacher (Ferrari) ___ Ferrari
1999 ___ M. Hakkinen (McLaren) ____ Ferrari
1998 ___ M. Hakkinen (McLaren) ____ McLaren Mercedes
1997 ___ J. Villeneuve (Williams) ____ Williams Renault
1996 ___ D. Hill (Williams) _________ Williams Renault
1995 ___ M. Schumacher (Benetton) _ Benetton Renault
1994 ___ M. Schumacher (Benetton) _ Williams Renault
Calendar of Events
06/03/2005 Australia, Melbourne
20/03/2005 Malaysia, Sepang
03/04/2005 Bahrain, Sakhir
24/04/2005 San Marino, Imola
08/05/2005 Spain, Barcelona
22/05/2005 Monaco, Monaco
29/05/2005 Europe, Nurburgring
12/06/2005 Canada, Montréal
19/06/2005 USA, Indianapolis
03/07/2005 France, Magny-Cours
10/07/2005 Great-Britain, Silverstone
24/07/2005 Germany, Hockenheim
31/07/2005 Hungary, Hungaroring
21/08/2005 Turkey, Istanbul
04/09/2005 Italy, Monza
11/09/2005 Belgium, Spa-Francorchamps
25/09/2005 Brazil, Interlagos
09/10/2005 Japan, Suzuka
16/10/2005 China, Shanghai
The circuit for this weekend in Melbourne, Australia
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plutonium
03-04-2005, 12:29 PM
if schumacher is world champion again i kill me !
edit
kill myself sorry !
<:llama: edit> REMEMBER TO USE YOUR EDIT BUTTON INSTEAD OF DOUBLE POSTING!
mindido
03-04-2005, 12:48 PM
I don't follow F1 as much as I used to but I do echo Plutonium. The problem is, Who the heck is going to beat Schumacher? Unless there is a major trajedy I don't see anyone.
The Chief
03-04-2005, 02:38 PM
I used to be a big fan, but I've lost interest over the years. I heard there was some sort of controversy during the closed season, between the teams and the FIA. What's that all about?
Conman
03-04-2005, 11:01 PM
Watching the qualifying session right now. To answer The Chief, all that nonsense is the usual bitching and griping about the new rules for F1. The authorities have been looking for ways to slow the cars down and equalise the grid for a more competitive show. This year, it looks to have found the right idea with the new qualifying format and the new One Engine One Set of Tyres rule.
Fiisichella, Trulli and Webber top the time sheets in qualifying for tomorrows sessions. M Schumi is 18th. That should make a few of you quite happy :)
The 1st Qualifying Results
1. 6 FISICHELLA Renault M 1'33"171 @ 204.901 Km/h
2. 16 TRULLI Toyota M 1'35"270 + 0'02"099
3. 7 WEBBER Williams BMW M 1'36"717 + 0'03"546
4. 11 VILLENEUVE Sauber Petronas M 1'36"984 + 0'03"813
5. 15 KLIEN RedBull Cosworth M 1'37"486 + 0'04"315
6. 14 COULTHARD RedBull Cosworth M 1'38"320 + 0'05"149
7. 8 HEIDFELD Williams BMW M 1'39"517 + 0'06"346
8. 3 BUTTON BAR Honda M 1'41"512 + 0'08"341
9. 19 KARTHIKEYAN Jordan Toyota B 1'44"357 + 0'11"186
10. 9 RAIKKONEN McLaren Mercedes M 1'44"997 + 0'11"826
11. 10 MONTOYA McLaren Mercedes M 1'45"325 + 0'12"154
12. 2 BARRICHELLO Ferrari B 1'45"481 + 0'12"310
13. 18 MONTEIRO Jordan Toyota B 1'46"846 + 0'13"675
14. 5 ALONSO Renault M 1'47"708 + 0'14"537
15. 21 ALBERS Minardi Cosworth B 1'49"230 + 0'16"059
16. 20 FRIESACHER Minardi Cosworth B 1'50"864 + 0'17"693
17. 17 R.SCHUMACHER Toyota M 1'51"495 + 0'18"324
18. 1 M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari B 1'57"931 + 0'24"760
P. MASSA Sauber Petronas & T. SATO BAR Honda did not make complete runs and will be first out in towmorrow's Final Qualification run before the race proper.
Conman
03-06-2005, 05:04 AM
Results from the 2005 Fosters Australian Grand Prix
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Barrichello, Fisichella and Alonso on the podium.
1. 6 FISICHELLA Renault M 1h24'17"736 @ 215.151 Km/h
2. 2 BARRICHELLO Ferrari B + 0'05"553 214.915 Km/h
3. 5 ALONSO Renault M + 0'06"712 214.866 Km/h
4. 14 COULTHARD RedBull Cosworth M + 0'16"131 214.467 Km/h
5. 7 WEBBER Williams BMW M + 0'16"908 214.434 Km/h
6. 10 MONTOYA McLaren Mercedes M + 0'35"033 213.671 Km/h
7. 15 KLIEN RedBull Cosworth M + 0'38"997 213.505 Km/h
8. 9 RAIKKONEN McLaren Mercedes M + 0'39"633 213.478 Km/h
9. 16 TRULLI Toyota M + 1'03"106 212.499 Km/h
10. 12 MASSA Sauber Petronas M + 1'04"393 212.446 Km/h
11. 3 BUTTON BAR Honda M 1 lap(s)
12. 17 R.SCHUMACHER Toyota M 1 lap(s)
13. 11 VILLENEUVE Sauber Petronas M 1 lap(s)
14. 4 SATO BAR Honda M 2 lap(s)
15. 19 KARTHIKEYAN Jordan Toyota B 2 lap(s)
16. 18 MONTEIRO Jordan Toyota B 2 lap(s)
17. 20 FRIESACHER Minardi Cosworth B 4 lap(s)
18. 1 M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari B 15 lap(s) DNF
19. 8 HEIDFELD Williams BMW M 15 lap(s) DNF
20. 21 ALBERS Minardi Cosworth B 41 lap(s) DNF
Current Driver and Constructer World Championship Standings
Drivers:
1. FISICHELLA 10 Points
2. BARRICHELLO 8 Points
3. ALONSO 6 Points
4. COULTHARD 5 Points
5. WEBBER 4 Points
6. MONTOYA 3 Points
7. KLIEN 2 Points
8. RAIKKONEN 1 Point
Constructers:
1. RENAULT 16 Points
2. FERRARI 8 Points
3. REDBULL COSWORTH 7 Points
4. WILLIAMS BMW 4 Points
4. MCLAREN MERCEDES 4 Points
Some Photos Of The Race
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monkeyman
03-06-2005, 09:46 AM
Can you guys believe those new rules they have? No changing of tires? And having to keep the same exact car from the 1 lap of qualifying? This is going crazy.
Yes and they have to use the same engine for two races. Changing the engine will make the racer lose ten positions :neutral:
The Mighty Z
03-07-2005, 05:16 AM
Can you guys believe those new rules they have? No changing of tires? And having to keep the same exact car from the 1 lap of qualifying? This is going crazy.
In fact, the only reason of the new rules is making the new season exciting.
Who is waiting for another year of Ferrari/Schumacher supremacy?
According to the race results of last weekend the new rules worked during the first race.
Let's wait and see how it evolves.
Zinista
03-07-2005, 09:06 PM
I agree Z.. Closer racing and competition is what most people get excited about.. Go Webber!!!
Conman
03-07-2005, 09:59 PM
I could care less about Schumi ... I'm going to be rooting for Rubens to step up and show up more regularly as we know he can. Mike assisting Rubens ... now wont that be a headliner! And its really not that far fetched if you consider that Rubens has been as consistent in bringing his car home as Schumi and not as hard on his equipment and tyres than Schumi.
In a race designed for consistency and reliability, I see Rubens, Fisichella, Webber, Massa, Coulthard and Trulli as being amongst the challengers this season. The hard chargers are going to take a year to get used to a new driving style and strategy. They will tend to go out hard and fast and start waning at the end, or go out too conservatively like Schumi did in Oz, and have a mountain to climb at the end. No. 2 Drivers who have actively tested in the close season have produced better results at Oz, than their illustrious No. 1s who did considerably less testing. And we all know that the No.2 Driver is always the lesser aggressor on the track, save Montoya.
In theory, if they brought Mika Hakkinen back, he would stand the best chance of winning this year's title. The rationale is that he has been racing in the World Rally Championship (Privateer's) and in the world of auto racing, there is no competition that relies more heavily on reliability than the WRC. Hakkinen has the added experience of 2 Le Mans endurance races and is best known for having one of the most consistent finishing records of anyone in the current field.
This is going to be in intruiging season and I am rooting for Rubens Barrichello to shine through. To come from mid grid and take second place in last years (albeit modified) car, only shows that Ferrari still have the package ... only this time, its made in Brazil! ;) Bring on the Samba!! :D
And now, although they're not nude (hey, don't bitch! ... this is the Discussion Forum, not M&P.) here are the race chics as mentioned by TMZ!
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Conman
03-18-2005, 10:52 AM
SEPANG, MALAYSIA 20 MARCH 2005
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Creation date: 1999
First F1 Grand Prix: 17 October 1999
Grand Prix held: 6
Spectactor capacity: around 130000
Track length: 5.543 km
Number of laps: 56 (310.408 Km)
Number of corners: 15 (left:5) (right:10)
Top speed: 330 Km/h
Downforce setup: Medium
Best lap: J. Montoya - 1'34''223 (2004, Williams)
Record Pole: M. Schumacher - 1'33''074 (2004, Ferrari)
2004 Pole: M. Schumacher - 1'33''074 (Ferrari)
2004 Podium
1. M. Schumacher
2. J. Montoya
3. J. Button
cableguy
03-18-2005, 07:19 PM
i was somewhat sad when the honda team changed their homepage... the old address still redirects, but i thought http://www.barf1.com was a rather amusing address...
in other news, i like f1 racing, but only about the first 2-3 laps... after that, one can generally guess the finishing order, minus the unexpected retirement from engine failure or the ever scarce crash... aside from carnage at the start, which can be legendary, the lack of close racing and passing is a bit of a downer for me...
subtopic: what will happen with sponsorship in the f1 series as more and more countries adopt some form of tobacco ad bans?? at some point, even though most folks know marlboro sponsors team ferrari, and other tobacco companies/brands sponsor close to half the teams, the lack of ability to put the name on the cars might well end this partnership... what happens after that??
Conman
03-18-2005, 11:51 PM
This point was raised 4 years ago when the relevant potential new track owners with National anti smoking ad laws proposed their interests in hosting the event. Bernie Eccelstone had no choice but prioritise hosts like Shanghai and Bahrain which favoured tobbacco ads. By 2008 however, a blanket ban on these ads will come into effect.
It is anticipated that by that time, Telcos would have replaced Tobbacco as the dominant advertiser. Already, the money put in by the likes of O2, Vodaphone, Orange (previoius years) and Nokia have been substantially competitive to the likes of British American Tobbacco, Philip Morris and Mild Seven to name a few. Infact, Telcos currently dominate the sponsorship of the other pinnacle motorsports of MotoGP, Superbike and World Rally Championship; Telefonica, Vodaphone, O2, Erricsson, Nokia, Motorolla are all mainstay names on the livery of the leading teams.
On the lighter and flipside of tobbacco advertising, Williams BMW have taken a unique stand by getting Niquittine (Kick the habit patches) as the third largest sponsor for their team. Smart move! ;)
1st Qualifying Results
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Times for Saturday's first qualifying for Sunday's Malaysian Formula One Grand Prix:
1 Fernando Alonso (Spa) Renault one minute 32.582 seconds
2 Jarno Trulli (Ita) Toyota 1:32.672 seconds
3 Giancarlo Fisichella (Ita) Renault 1:32.765
4 Kimi Raikkonen (Fin) McLaren 1:32.839
5 Ralf Schumacher (Ger) Toyota 1:33.106
6 Mark Webber (Aus) Williams 1:33.204
7 Juan Pablo Montoya (Col) McLaren 1:33.333
8 Nick Heidfeld (Ger) Williams 1:33.464
9 Jenson Button (GB) BAR 1:33.616
10 Christian Klien (Aut) Red Bull 1:33.724
11 David Coulthard (GB) Red Bull 1:33.809
12 Michael Schumacher (Ger) Ferrari 1:34.072
13 Felipe Massa (Brz) Sauber 1:34.151
14 Rubens Barrichello (Brz) Ferrari 1:34.162
15 Anthony Davidson (GB) BAR 1:34.866
16 Jacques Villeneuve (Can) Sauber 1:34.887
17 Narain Karthikeyan (Ind) Jordan 1:37.806
18 Tiago Monteiro (Por) Jordan 1:37.856
19 Patrick Friesacher (Aut) Minardi 1:39.268
20 Christijan Albers (Ned) Minardi 1:40.432
Englishman Anthony Davidson is filling in at BAR for the ill Takuma Sato.
Conman
03-20-2005, 01:15 AM
Starting Grid for Sunday 20 March 2005 (1 hour 45 mins to go)
1. ALONSO Renault M
2. TRULLI Toyota M
3. WEBBER Williams BMW M
4. KLIEN RedBull Cosworth M
5. COULTHARD RedBull Cosworth M
6. R.SCHUMACHER Toyota M
7. BUTTON BAR Honda M
8. HEIDFELD Williams BMW M
9. FISICHELLA Renault M
10. RAIKKONEN McLaren Mercedes M
11. MONTOYA McLaren Mercedes M
12. DAVIDSON BAR Honda M (Sub for Takuma Sato)
13. BARRICHELLO Ferrari B
14. M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari B
15. MASSA Sauber Petronas M
16. VILLENEUVE Sauber Petronas M
17. KARTHIKEYAN Jordan Toyota B
18. MONTEIRO Jordan Toyota B
19. FRIESACHER Minardi Cosworth B
20. ALBERS Minardi Cosworth B
Conman
03-20-2005, 04:52 AM
2005 Malaysian Grand Prix Results
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1 Fernando Alonso Renault Winner
2 Jarno Trulli Toyota +24.3 secs
3 Nick Heidfeld Williams-BMW +32.1 secs
4 Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes +41.6 secs
5 Ralf Schumacher Toyota +51.8 secs
6 David Coulthard Red Bull Racing +72.5 secs
7 Michael Schumacher Ferrari +79.9 secs
8 Christian Klien Red Bull Racing +80.8 secs
9 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes +81.5 secs
10 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas +1 Lap
11 Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota +2 Lap
12 Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota +3 Lap
13 Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth +4 Lap
Ret Rubens Barrichello Ferrari +7 Lap
Ret Giancarlo Fisichella Renault +20 Laps
Ret Mark Webber Williams-BMW +20 Laps
Ret Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas +30 Laps
Ret Jenson Button BAR-Honda +54 Laps
Ret Anthony Davidson BAR-Honda +54 Laps
Ret Patrick Friesacher Minardi-Cosworth +54 Laps
Current Driver and Constructer World Championship Standings
Drivers:
1. ALONSO 16 Points
2. FISICHELLA 10 Points
3. BARRICHELLO 8 Points
4. TRULLI 8 Points
5. COULTHARD 8 Points
6. MONTOYA 8 Points
7. HEIDFELD 6 Points
8. SCHUMACHER, R 4 Points
9. WEBBER 4 Point
10. KLIEN 3 Points
11. SCHUMACHER, M 2 Points
12. RAIKKONEN 1 Point
Constructers:
1. RENAULT 26 Points
2. TOYOTA 12 Points
3. REDBULL COSWORTH 11 Points
4. FERRARI 10 Points
5. WILLIAMS BMW 10 Points
6. MCLAREN MERCEDES 9 Points
The Mighty Z
03-21-2005, 05:42 AM
It seems like the "new rules" are really working.
Once more Schumi didn't even end on the podium. (Could this be the one year that is too much?)
Next up is Bahrein, where Schumacher won last year.
Can't wait till the next race.
And, oh yeah, ............... YAY for Alonso/Renault !
F1 News
Injured Montoya out of Bahrain GP
McLaren have confirmed Juan Pablo Montoya will not race in this weekend's Bahrain Grand Prix because of injury. The Colombian driver suffered a hairline fracture of the shoulder when he fell while playing tennis last week.
Webber raced with fractured rib
Mark Webber drove in the first two races of the new F1 season with a fractured rib, it has been revealed. The Williams driver is fit to take part in this weekend's Bahrain GP after missing testing last week in Barcelona.
Sato set to make Bahrain return
Takuma Sato will be back in action for BAR-Honda at the Bahrain GP this weekend after recovering from a fever. The 28-year-old Japanese driver missed the Malaysian GP last week after falling ill on the Friday before the Sepang event.
New Ferrari excites Barrichello
Rubens Barrichello has warned Formula One to expect a much more competitive showing from Ferrari at the Bahrain Grand Prix this weekend. The world champions have introduced their new car two races early after two disappointing showings in the modified version of their 2004 car. "The new car is quicker. It is particularly amazing to drive through high-speed corners," said Barrichello. "The car brought a smile to my face. We can really fight the opposition now."
Barrichello's team-mate Michael Schumacher has endured his worst-ever start to a season with just two points on the board after two races. However, the seven-time world champion refuses to worry about Renault's early-season dominance and has put his faith in hard work to turn around Ferrari's fortunes. "Having been in Formula One for so many years, I know every season has its ups and downs," said Schumacher.
moxdevil
03-30-2005, 01:36 PM
Despite being a big schuie fan since his time at benetton, and a ferrari fan even longer i cannot help but think the changes that have been implemented, and the rise of renault and toyota are aiding the sport. more teams competing, more oportunity for those who didn't make the podium because of the status quo, it has breathed new life into the sport.
SAKHIR, BAHRAIN 03 APRIL 2005
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Creation date: 2004
First F1 Grand Prix: 04 April 2004
Grand Prix held: 1
Spectactor capacity: around 50000
Track length: 5.417 km
Number of laps: 57 (308.769 Km)
Number of corners: 11 (left:4) (right:7)
Top speed: 315 Km/h
Downforce setup: Medium
Best lap: M. Schumacher - 1'30''252 (2004, Ferrari)
Record Pole: M. Schumacher - 1'30''139 (2004, Ferrari)
2004 Pole: M. Schumacher - 1'30''139 (Ferrari)
2004 Podium
1. M. Schumacher
2. R. Barrichello
3. J. Button
The 1st Qualifying Results
1. 5 ALONSO Renault M 1:29.848
2. 16 TRULLI Toyota M 1:29.993
3. 1 M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari B 1:30.237
4. 8 HEIDFELD Williams BMW M 1:30.390
5. 6 FISICHELLA Renault M 1:30.445
6. 7 WEBBER Williams BMW M 1:30.592
7. 9 RAIKKONEN McLaren Mercedes M 1:30.594
8. 15 KLIEN RedBull Cosworth M 1:30.646
9. * DE LA ROSA McLaren Mercedes M 1:30.725
10. 12 MASSA Sauber Petronas M 1:30.933
11. 17 R.SCHUMACHER Toyota M 1:30.952
12. 3 BUTTON BAR Honda M 1:30.957
13. 4 SATO BAR Honda M 1:31.113
14. 14 COULTHARD RedBull Cosworth M 1:31.211
15. 2 BARRICHELLO Ferrari B 1:31.826
16. 11 VILLENEUVE Sauber Petronas M 1:32.318
17. 19 KARTHIKEYAN Jordan Toyota B 1:33.190
18. 18 MONTEIRO Jordan Toyota B 1:33.424
19. 21 ALBERS Minardi Cosworth B 1:34.005
20. 20 FRIESACHER Minardi Cosworth B 1:34.848
* P. DE LA ROSA is racing in the place of the injured J. P. MONTOYA
It looks like a race between Alonso and Trulli in tomorrows second qualifying for pole position.
2005 Bahrain Grand Prix Results
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1 Fernando Alonso Renault Winner
2 Jarno Trulli Toyota +13.4 secs
3 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes +32.0 secs
4 Ralf Schumacher Toyota +53.2 secs
5 Pedro de la Rosa McLaren-Mercedes +64.9 secs
6 Mark Webber Williams-BMW +74.7 secs
7 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas +1 Lap
8 David Coulthard Red Bull Racing +1 Lap
9 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari +1 Lap
10 Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota +2 Lap
11 Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas +3 Lap
12 Patrick Friesacher Minardi-Cosworth +3 Lap
13 Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth +4 Lap
Ret Jenson Button BAR-Honda +11 Lap
Ret Takuma Sato BAR-Honda +30 Lap
Ret Nick Heidfeld Williams-BMW +32 Lap
Ret Michael Schumacher Ferrari +45 Lap
Ret Giancarlo Fisichella Renault +53 Lap
Ret Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota +55 Lap
DNS Christian Klien Red Bull Racing
Current Driver and Constructer World Championship Standings
Drivers:
1. ALONSO 26 Points
2. TRULLI 16 Points
3. FISICHELLA 10 Points
4. COULTHARD 9 Points
5. SCHUMACHER, R 9 Points
6. BARRICHELLO 8 Points
7. MONTOYA 8 Points
8. RAIKKONEN 7 Points
9. WEBBER 7 Points
10. HEIDFELD 6 Points
11. DE LA ROSA 4 Points
12. KLIEN 3 Points
13. MASSA 2 Points
14. SCHUMACHER, M 2 Points
Constructers:
1. RENAULT 36 Points
2. TOYOTA 25 Points
3. MCLAREN MERCEDES 19 Points
4. WILLIAMS BMW 13 Points
5. REDBULL COSWORTH 12 Points
6. FERRARI 10 Points
7. SAUBER PETRONAS 2 Points
Two wins in a row for Fernando Alonso increases his lead in the championship to 10 points with a 24 point gap back to Michael Schumacher. The new Ferrari looks like it may be competitive later on in the season but it currently has some issues with the gearbox. The next race is in three weeks time at Imola.
F1 News
Here's all the latest F1 news before this weekends San Marino GP
BERNIE PUSHING FOR NEW QUALIFYING SYSTEM
Bernie Ecclestone is seeking an urgent overhaul of Formula 1’s qualifying system, according to a report in this week’s Autosport magazine.
http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=32589
WURZ TO REPLACE INJURED MONTOYA
Alexander Wurz will replace injured McLaren driver Juan Pablo Montoya in the San Marino Grand Prix this weekend.
Montoya suffered a hairline fracture in one of his shoulders while playing tennis last month and scans this week revealed that he is still not yet fit.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/4436361.stm
MIDLAND BUYS JORDAN WINDTUNNEL
The Midland Group, which bought Jordan Grand Prix at the beginning of the year, announced today that it has also purchased the team's wind-tunnel.
http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=32581
Let's hope the exciting start to the season continues in San Marino with the downfall of Ferrari continuing. I'm also hoping that the new windtunnel at Jordan will help build a competitive car for next season so that they can get back to the standard of performance they had in the late 1990's.
I definitely agree with Bernie about the single qualifying on Saturday being a better and more exciting option over the aggregate system. 1 lap, all or nothing certainly makes for a more interesting and mixed starting grid. Also, those who criticize that after the initial laps the finishing order is pretty much determined, which is true in many cases, get a few extra laps of fighting between faster cars who may have qualified mid-pack for whatever reason and slower cars which happened to qualify higher in the grid.
In regards to balance between the cars and the ever fluctuating rules I think f1 is moving in the right direction, though the rule changes every other race is somewhat annoying. The new Ferarri is fast but doesn’t show that huge performance gap over the other cars like they did in 2004. Renault is super-fast no doubt and Alonso is doing a fantastic driving job over there. It’s good to see McLaren and Williams in good form and I hope they pick up a few races. Kimi and Montoya have a good shot and Webber is looking very well in my humble opinion.
All in all it is shaping up to be a good year for F1, it’s just to bad we have to watch poor Villeneuve push that Sauber around the track.
All in all it is shaping up to be a good year for F1, it’s just to bad we have to watch poor Villeneuve push that Sauber around the track.
I don't think we'll be seeing Villeneuve driving for much longer. I think Peter Sauber will have had enough with poor performances soon and replace him with a new younger driver. Villeneuve is not half as good behind the wheel now as he was the year he won the world championship.
IMOLA, SAN MARINO 24 APRIL 2005
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Interactive Circuit Map: http://www.formula1.com/race/circuitmap/735.html
Creation date: 1980
First F1 Grand Prix: 14 September 1980
Grand Prix held: 25
Spectactor capacity: around 60000
Track length: 4.933 km
Number of laps: 62 (305.609 Km)
Number of corners: 16 (left:10) (right:6)
Top speed: 325 Km/h
Downforce setup: high
Best lap: M. Schumacher - 1'20''411 (2004, Ferrari)
Record Pole: J. Button - 1'19''753 (2004, BAR)
2004 Pole: J. Button - 1'19''753 (BAR)
2004 Podium
1. M. Schumacher
2. J. Button
3. J. Montoya
Räikkönen took the first place in qualiying event. Go Kimi go! But Alonso is very fast, too.
Results from the 2005 San Marino Grand Prix
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1. 5 ALONSO Renault M 1h27'41"921 209.086 Km/h
2. 1 M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari B + 0'00"215 209.077 Km/h
3. 3 BUTTON BAR Honda M + 0'10"481 208.670 Km/h
4. 10 WURZ McLaren Mercedes M + 0'27"554 207.997 Km/h
5. 4 SATO BAR Honda M + 0'34"783 207.713 Km/h
6. 11 VILLENEUVE Sauber Petronas M + 1'04"442 206.556 Km/h
7. 16 TRULLI Toyota M + 1'10"258 206.331 Km/h
8. 8 HEIDFELD Williams BMW M + 1'11"282 206.291 Km/h
9. 7 WEBBER Williams BMW M + 1'23"297 205.827 Km/h
10. 15 LIUZZI RedBull Cosworth M + 1'23"764 205.809 Km/h
11. 17 R.SCHUMACHER Toyota M + 1'35"841 205.346 Km/h
12. 12 MASSA Sauber Petronas M 1 lap(s)
13. 14 COULTHARD RedBull Cosworth M 1 lap(s)
14. 19 KARTHIKEYAN Jordan Toyota B 1 lap(s)
15. 18 MONTEIRO Jordan Toyota B 2 lap(s)
16. 21 ALBERS Minardi Cosworth B 42 lap(s)
17. 2 BARRICHELLO Ferrari B 44 lap(s)
18. 9 RAIKKONEN McLaren Mercedes M 53 lap(s)
19. 20 FRIESACHER Minardi Cosworth B 54 lap(s)
20. 6 FISICHELLA Renault M 57 lap(s)
Current Dirve and Constructer World Championship Standings
Drivers:
1 Fernando Alonso 36
2 Jarno Trulli 18
3 Giancarlo Fisichella 10
4 Michael Schumacher 10
5 Ralf Schumacher 10
6 David Coulthard 9
7 Rubens Barrichello 8
8 Juan Pablo Montoya 8
9 Kimi Raikkonen 7
10 Mark Webber 7
11 Nick Heidfeld 6
12 Jenson Button 6
13 Alexander Wurz 5
14 Takuma Sato 4
15 Pedro de la Rosa 4
16 Jacques Villeneuve 3
17 Christian Klien 3
18 Felipe Massa 2
Constructers:
1 Renault 46
2 Toyota 28
3 McLaren 24
4 Ferrari 18
5 Williams 13
6 Red Bull 12
7 Sauber 5
F1 News
Button could lose Imola GP podium
Formula One's governing body is to appeal against the decision by the San Marino Grand Prix stewards not to take any action against Jenson Button.
Officials found Button's BAR car was underweight without fuel after Sunday's race in which the Briton came third.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/4482177.stm
BAR protest innocence over Button
BAR have insisted that they did not deliberately run an underweight car during the San Marino Grand Prix.
The team was cleared by race stewards after Jenson Button's car was found to be too light, but F1's ruling body the FIA has appealed against the decision.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/4486869.stm
Ralf accuses Ferrari over testing
Toyota driver Ralf Schumacher has criticised Ferrari for refusing to restrict their in-season testing.
All nine other Formula One teams agreed to test on just 30 days this year to cut spiralling costs.
Schumacher said: "We restrict ourselves and Ferrari carry on testing happily. I don't understand this. What they are doing is unfair to everyone else.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/4482895.stm
Onimusha
04-26-2005, 07:08 PM
those last 20 laps at Imola were insane! i hope we're gonna get a lot more 'dogfights' like this one :D
eROSSIFILMWORKS
04-29-2005, 05:37 AM
I've been racing on this track for a year and half. Go to Virtual Grand Prix 2 and download it and try to get 1:23:9.
ceceD
04-30-2005, 03:00 PM
Geez, it's 2005 and no women drivers!
Geez, it's 2005 and no women drivers!
Why are there no women in Formula One?
There are many background reasons for this. Girls and women are usually less mechanically aware, and young girls are much less likely to take an interest in driving at the age of ten or so, when the champions of Motorsport start racing in karts. It should be noted in favour of the FIA that in their entire existence, even at times less Politically Correct than now, the regulations have always allowed women to race as equals to men, simply because as far as the FIA was concerned they couldn't care less who sat in the cars as long as they were able to drive them.
There have been some women drivers before - just none at the moment
1958: Maria Teresa De Filippis - 4 GPs
This was F1's first lady driver. In the 50's Maria Theresa de Filippis took part in several Grands Prix. Lella Lombardi spent a couple of seasons in Formula One and scored half a point in the 1975 Spanish Grand Prix.
1975-76: Lella Lombardi - 12 GPs
So far the only woman to have registered a top six finish in a World Championship Grand Prix, Lombardi took half a point for sixth place in the prematurely terminated 1975 Spanish Grand Prix at Barcelona's Montjuich Park circuit. Driving for the factory March team, she contested the entire 1975 World Championship series but was replaced after losing her backing one race into the following year. Subsequently she raced sportscars and touring cars with some success into the 1980s.
Drivers who failed to qualify: Giovanna Amati , Davina Galica, Desiré Wilson
In 1992 Giovanna Amati raced for Brabham early in the season, but the car was not good, and Amati failed to qualify every time she attempted.
In the early 80's Desire Wilson won the Aurora Formula One series in the UK, which led into her attempting to qualify for the British Grand Prix in an old Williams. But she was given a different car than she had won the Aurora series in and didn't get used to the newer Williams before qualifying was over.
F1 bosses seeking BAR exclusion
Formula One chiefs have asked for BAR-Honda to be disqualified from this year's championship at an appeal hearing in Paris on Wednesday.
Jenson Button's car was found to be five kilogrammes below the 600kg minimum weight at the San Marino GP. "The FIA asks the court to exclude the BAR team from the world championship and to fine the team at least one million euros," a FIA statement read. A lesser penalty could see Button lose the six points he won in Imola.
The BAR team have asked the court to dismiss the FIA appeal and continue to protest their innocence. "At no time would I allow anybody in the team to do anything illegal, we have a common culture of integrity and fairness," BAR technical director Geoff Willis insisted.
FIA president Max Mosley said at the start of the season that any team found guilty of cheating would be thrown out of the championship."And it doesn't matter who it is, Ferrari or anybody in between, it has to be like that," he stated. Officials from his organisation effectively accused BAR of cheating when claiming: "The team set out deliberately to gain an illegitimate and unfair advantage over other teams."
The FIA have disqualified a team in the past. Tyrrell were banned from their last three races of the 1984 season and their results wiped out for the entire season because they were adding lead shot to the car as ballast during races. Toyota were also axed from the World Rally Championship in 1995 for using an illegal turbo-charger.
Team principal Nick Fry hopes BAR will not suffer the same fate, saying: "We are hanging on the basic belief that right will prevail at the end. "At no time was the car light and I don't think that we've done anything wrong."
The FIA believes BAR were using two hidden fuel tanks within the main tank to hide fuel that was used as ballast during the race. That would allow the car to run lighter than its rivals - and dip below the minimum weight limit in the laps immediately preceding its fuel stop. It could also be used to allow the team to do more laps before a stop, giving them a strategic advantage in the race.
But the team says the extra tanks are used to pressurise fuel before it is injected into the engine. The lawyer representing BAR at the hearing, David Pannick said: "There was no secret chamber in this engine. At worst, there was a minor misunderstanding. A modest fine would suffice." But the general secretary of the FIA, Pierre de Coninck, who was presiding over the hearing, said: "A flexible fuel compartment allows a car to stay out for two or three laps when a legitimate car would have to pit. "This enables cars to complete more laps than a genuine 600kg car."
Kris De Groot, a member of the Formula One technical team, told the hearing he asked BAR's chief mechanic Alistair Gibson for a "full draining" of the car. He said he then found more fuel, as well as a plastic tube, the function of which was not clear. "Most teams understand the term 'full drain'," De Groot said. "I asked Gibson what the tube was for and I was given no definitive answer."
The verdict will be announced on Thurday.
BAR and Button get two-race ban
The BAR team has been banned for two races for running an underweight car at the San Marino Grand Prix.
An appeal court of motorsport's ruling body the FIA also stripped BAR of the 10 points won by Jenson Button and team-mate Takuma Sato at Imola. But it stopped short of meeting the FIA's request that BAR be thrown out of the Formula One championship.
Button and Sato will now have to sit out Sunday's Spanish Grand Prix and the Monaco Grand Prix on 22 May. And the decision to exclude BAR's San Marino results means the team and its drivers will have no points when they return for the European Grand Prix at the Nurburgring on 29 May.
A further six-month ban has been suspended for a year.
The ruling was the toughest sanction taken against a Formula One team for 20 years.
BAR plan to fight Grand Prix ban
BAR have reacted angrily after being banned for two races for running an underweight car at the San Marino GP. The team said it was still considering its options and hoped to race in the Spanish Grand Prix on Sunday.
CIRCUIT DE CATALUNYA, BARCELONA, SPAIN,
8 MAY 2005
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Creation date: 1991
First F1 Grand Prix: 29 September 1991
Grand Prix held: 14
Spectactor capacity: around 104000
Track length: 4.627 km
Number of laps: 66 (305.256 Km)
Number of corners: 13 (left:5) (right:8)
Top speed: 325 Km/h
Downforce setup: medium
Best lap: M. Schumacher - 1'17''450 (2004, Ferrari)
Record Pole: M. Schumacher - 1'15''022 (2004, Ferrari)
2004 Pole: M. Schumacher - 1'15''022 (Ferrari)
2004 Podium
1. M. Schumacher
2. R. Barrichello
3. J. Trulli
The 1st Qualifying Results
1 J Trulli (Toyota) 1:14.795
2 F Alonso (Renault) 1:14.811
3 K Raikkonen (McLaren) 1:14.819
4 R Schumacher (Toyota) 1:14.870
5 N Heidfeld (Williams) 1:15.038
6 M Webber (Williams) 1:15.042
7 M Schumacher (Ferrari) 1:15.398
8 G Fisichella (Renault) 1:15.601
9 R Barrichello (Ferrari) 1:15.746
10 D Coulthard (Red Bull) 1:15.795
11 F Massa (Sauber) 1.15:863
12 J Montoya (McLaren) 1:15.902
13 V Liuzzi (Red Bull) 1:16.228
14 J Villeneuve (Sauber) 1:16.794
15 N Karthikeyan (Jordan) 1:18.557
16 T Monteiro (Jordan) 1:19.040
17 C Albers (Minardi) 1:19.563
18 P Friesacher (Minardi) 1:20.306
Rubens Barrichello's poor season continued as the Ferrari driver was docked 10 places on the starting grid for Sunday's Spanish Grand Prix. The team spotted a problem with his engine ahead of Saturday qualifying and were forced to replace it.
Nick Heidfeld was also penalised 10 places on the grid because his Williams also needed a new engine. Engine partners BMW said they had discovered a defective exhaust valve.
Jenson Button and Takuma Sato will not be in the next two races after BAR-Honda decided not to challenge the two-race ban handed to it by the FIA International Court of Appeal on Thursday.
This time Räikkönen will beat them all! It would be nice if Trulli took the pole, not Alonso this time.
Final Grid Positions
1 K Raikkonen (McLaren) 2:31.421
2 M Webber (Williams) 2:31.668
3 F Alonso (Renault) 2:31.691
4 R Schumacher (Toyota) 2:31.917
5 J Trulli (Toyota) 2:31.995
6 G Fisichella (Renault) 2:32.830
7 J Montoya (McLaren) 2:33.472
8 M Schumacher (Ferrari) 2:33.551
9 D Coulthard (Red Bull) 2:34.168
10 F Massa (Sauber) 2:34.224
11 V Liuzzi (Red Bull) 2:35.302
12 J Villeneuve (Sauber) 2:36.480
13 N Karthikeyan (Jordan) 2:39.268
14 T Monteiro (Jordan) 2:39.943
15 C Albers (Minardi) 2:41.141
16 P Friesacher (Minardi) 2:42.759
17 N Heidfeld (Williams) no time
18 R Barrichello (Ferrari) no time
Not long to go before the start of the race - let's hope for a race as good as San Marino two weeks ago
Results from the 2005 Spanish Grand Prix
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1. 9 RAIKKONEN McLaren Mercedes M
2. 5 ALONSO Renault M +27.6 secs
3. 16 TRULLI Toyota M +45.9 sec
4. 17 R.SCHUMACHER Toyota M +46.7 secs
5. 6 FISICHELLA Renault M +57.9 secs
6. 7 WEBBER Williams BMW M +68.5 secs
7. 10 MONTOYA McLaren Mercedes M + 1 lap
8. 14 COULTHARD RedBull Cosworth M + 1 lap
9. 2 BARRICHELLO Ferrari B + 1 lap
10. 8 HEIDFELD Williams BMW M + 1 lap
11. 12 MASSA Sauber Petronas M + 3 laps
12. 18 MONTEIRO Jordan Toyota B + 3 laps
13. 19 KARTHIKEYAN Jordan Toyota B + 3 laps
14. 11 VILLENEUVE Sauber Petronas M DNF
15. 1 M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari B DNF
16. 21 ALBERS Minardi Cosworth B DNF
17. 20 FRIESACHER Minardi Cosworth B DNF
18. 15 LIUZZI RedBull Cosworth M DNF
Kimi Raikkonen produced a stunning drive to win the Spanish Grand Prix and deny championship leader Fernando Alonso a fourth straight victory.
Current Driver and Constructer World Championship Standings
Drivers:
1 Fernando Alonso 44
2 Jarno Trulli 26
3 Kimi Raikkonen 17
4 Giancarlo Fisichella 14
5 Ralf Schumacher 14
6 Mark Webber 12
7 Michael Schumacher 10
8 David Coulthard 10
9 Juan Pablo Montoya 10
10 Nick Heidfeld 9
11 Rubens Barrichello 8
12 Alexander Wurz 6
13 Jacques Villeneuve 5
14 Pedro de la Rosa 4
15 Christian Klien 3
16 Felipe Massa 2
17 Vitantonio Liuzzi 1
Jenson Button deducted 6 points after BAR disqualification from San Marino GP
Takuma Sato deducted 4 points after BAR disqualification from San Marino GP
Constructers:
1 Renault 58
2 Toyota 40
3 McLaren 37
4 Williams 21
5 Ferrari 18
6 Red Bull 14
7 Sauber 7
BAR deducted 10 points after disqualification from San Marino GP
Conman
05-08-2005, 11:58 AM
I am starting to dislike the new qualifying format as well as the new one-tyre rule. I think to make F1 even more tactically competitive, FIA should allow two sets of tyres per race weekend. Use them as you like and change them as you see tactically advantageous. This can bring a whole great perspective on tactics and race strategies.
I agree, pit stops have become a lot more boring since the new rules about one set of tyres came in. These new rules are suppost to enable teams to cut their costs and therefore the smaller teams have more of a chance to become competitive, but the bigger teams are just spending more money to develop faster cars within the rules.
Todays faster lap (Giancarlo Fisichella) was nearly two seconds faster than any lap previously - it doesn't seem like the rules are slowing the cars down as they are suppost to.
F1 News
Toyota investigated over licence
Toyota could face sanctions from Formula One's governing body after it emerged the team has competed for years without the correct licence.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/4544973.stm
BMW chief denies Formula One exit
BMW has dismissed speculation that it could quit Formula One because of the Williams team's disappointing results.
Chief executive Helmut Panke said: "We are not satisfied with the sixth and seventh places, and we are in intensive discussions on how to do better.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/4544463.stm
Wurz unscathed after heavy crash
McLaren stand-in driver Alexander Wurz escaped unhurt after suffering a massive crash in testing.
The Austrian test driver crashed at the fastest part of the Le Castellet circuit in southern France where speeds can reach 270kph.
McLaren vow to retain Raikkonen
McLaren say they will battle to retain the services of last weekend's Spanish Grand Prix winner Kimi Raikkonen.
Ferrari boss Jean Todt has made no secret of his admiration for the Finn, who they are eyeing as a potential successor to Michael Schumacher.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/4540127.stm
Dmoney
05-14-2005, 05:51 AM
Wow what a good post there expo keep up with the upadates. Alonso is making me proud!!
Conman
05-16-2005, 09:58 PM
expo, know anything about diamonds in the helmets of Montoya and Raikkonen for Monte Carlo? Didn't think they'd try it again after Jaguar's Christian Klein's farce last year.
expo, know anything about diamonds in the helmets of Montoya and Raikkonen for Monte Carlo? Didn't think they'd try it again after Jaguar's Christian Klein's farce last year.
I am not sure if diamonds are going to be a feature of the divers helmets or of the McLaren cars but Steinmetz in association with Team McLaren Mercedes will be on board the luxury, super-yacht the SS Delphine, playing host to a selection of Grand Prix legends, Royalty, Hollywood stars, friends and F1 luminaries for the duration of the Monte Carlo Grand Prix Weekend.
The idea behind it is to launch Steinmetz's new collection of diamond jewellery.
MONACO GRAND PRIX 22 MAY 2005
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Creation date: 1950
First F1 Grand Prix: 21 May 1950
Grand Prix held: 51
Spectactor capacity: around 120000
Track length: 3.340 km
Number of laps: 78 (260.520 Km)
Number of corners: 16 (left:6) (right:10)
Top speed: 305 Km/h
Downforce setup: high
Best lap: M. Schumacher - 1'14''439 (2004, Ferrari)
Record Pole: J. Trulli - 1'13''985 (2004, Renault)
2004 Pole: J. Trulli - 1'13''985 (Renault)
2004 Podium
1. J. Trulli
2. J. Button
3. R. Barrichello
The Monaco Grand Prix brings the wealthiest people from all over the world together. It is set in the luxurious streets of Monte Carlo, and is one of the most traditional races on the calendar.
The circuit winds its way through the streets, from Ste devote, it goes uphill to Casino square, then plunges back down to Mirabeau before heading into the Loews hairpin. The tunnel that leads to the harbourside chicane echoes with the roar of the V10 engines. This is one track where overtaking is virtually impossible.
The first race was run in 1929, and in 1950, it was second on the calendar, when ten cars collided in a spectacular first lap accident, and Fangio raced on for the win. This track has so much history, it's hard to compress it in a few short sentences, but it goes without saying that this circuit is one that remains a favourite in many fans hearts, for many different reasons. It is a circuit based more on driver skill than the speed of the car.
Stirling Moss won in 1956, but in 57, he was involved in an accident at the chicane, and handed victory to Fangio. Moss was the main pace setter in this era, and his most memorable victory was in 1961 when he expertly held off both Ferraris. It was the first race after Ayrton Senna's tragic death, and it saw Michael Schumacher dominate, as he did again in 1995. Panis scored a surprise win for Prost in 1996, and Schumacher dominated once again in wet conditions in 97.
The McLaren of Mika Hakkinen took the honours in 98, with Schumacher and the Ferrari returning to claim the Germans fourth win in 99. The year 2000 was David Coulthard's time to shine, the Scot winning ahead of Ferrari driver, Rubens Barrichello and Benetton man, Giancarlo Fisichella. In 2001 McLaren driver David Coulthard was sent to the back of the grid for stalling and spent most of the event stuck behind the Arrows of Enrique Bernoldi as Michael Schumacher romped home for the win. However, the Scot got his own back in 2002 with a well-deserved victory, his one and only of the season.
Juan Pablo Montoya drove a superb race to secure his and Williams first win of the 2003 season, a mere 6 tenths of a second in front of the McLaren of Kimi Raikkonen. Michael Schumacher crossed the line in third place, a further second behind the Finn.
2004 saw quite a race around the streets of Monte Carlo as Jarno Trulli drove the race of his career from pole position to chequered flag to record Renault's sole victory of the season. The Italian racer battled long and hard to keep Michael Schumacher behind him, but the Ferrari star found himself inexplicably tangled up with Juan Pablo Montoya whist behind the safety car and his race was over on the spot.
The 2004 race will also be remembered for Fernando Alonso's massive crash in the tunnel as the Spaniard tried to pass around the outside of Ralf Schumacher's ailing BMW Williams. For Trulli and Renault, Monaco 2004 was a dream result in what would become a bitter season.
Thursday's first free practice times from Monaco
1. MONTOYA McLaren 1m17.152s
2. ALONSO Renault 1m17.301S
3. KLIEN Red Bull 1m17.511s
4. M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari 1m17.640s
5. FISICHELLA Renault 1m17.869s
6. WURZ McLaren 1m18.059s
7. WEBBER Williams 1m18.244s
8. R.SCHUMACHER Toyota 1m18.482s
9. COULTHARD Red Bull 1m18.669s
10. BARRICHELLO Ferrari 1m18.838s
11. HEIDFELD Williams 1m18.859s
12. RAIKKONEN McLaren 1m19.055s
13. TRULLI Toyota 1m19.255s
14. VILLENEUVE Sauber 1m19.755s
15. LIUZZI Red Bull 1m19.844s
16. MASSA Sauber 1m20.180s
17. ZONTA Toyota 1m20.979s
18. DOORNBOS Jordan 1m21.511s
19. FRIESACHER Minardi 1m21.968s
20. MONTEIRO Jordan 1m22.388s
21. KARTHIKEYAN Jordan 1m23.521s
22. ALBERS Minardi 1m25.664s
F1 NEWS
BERNIE PUSHING FOR QUALIFYING CHANGE
A change in the Formula 1 qualifying format could still be on the cards as early as next week, after it was revealed that team bosses will meet with Bernie Ecclestone this weekend to discuss the issue.
http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=32869
MAX OFFERS BERNIE FIA ROLE
Bernie Ecclestone may give up his role as Formula 1’s commercial rights holder in favour of a role with the sport’s governing body, it emerged during the build-up to the Monaco Grand Prix.
http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=32863
RED BULL TO WAIT ON DRIVER CHOICE
Red Bull will decide whether Christian Klien or Vitantonio Liuzzi will get the next drive in the team's second car after this weekend's Monaco Grand Prix.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/4562607.stm
TOYOTA ESCAPE RAP AFTER OVERSIGHT
The International Automobile Federation has confirmed that no action will be taken against Toyota, despite the team competing without the correct licence.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/4556689.stm
Thursday's second free practice times from Monaco
1. ALONSO Renault 1m15.835s
2. WURZ McLaren 1m15.912s
3. COULTHARD Red Bull 1m16.184s
4. FISICHELLA Renault 1m16.519s
5. MONTOYA McLaren 1m16.534s
6. RAIKKONEN McLaren 1m16.558s
7. LIUZZI Red Bull 1m16.640s
8. MASSA Sauber 1m16.914s
9. R.SCHUMACHER Toyota 1m16.917s
10. ZONTA Toyota 1m17.046s
11. M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari 1m17.170s
12. WEBBER Williams 1m17.422s
13. TRULLI Toyota 1m17.487s
14. VILLENEUVE Sauber 1m17.506s
15. BARRICHELLO Ferrari 1m17.663s
16. HEIDFELD Williams 1m17.667s
17. KLIEN Red Bull 1m18.815s
18. DOORNBOS Jordan 1m19.526s
19. FRIESACHER Minardi 1m19.587s
20. MONTEIRO Jordan 1m20.284s
21. KARTHIKEYAN Jordan 1m21.879s
22. ALBERS Minardi 1m22.162s
The results of the first two practice sessions seem to indicate that Renault and McLaren will be quick again. Ferrari still seem to be struggling for pace. With over taking very difficult at this street circuit grid position will be very important making Saturday afternoon and Sunday morning qualifying sessions very interesting.
QUALIFYING FORMAT SET TO CHANGE
Formula 1's team bosses have universally agreed to scrap the current aggregated qualifying system and replace it with a single hour-long one-lap session on Saturday afternoons.
The new format must now pass through the Formula 1 Commission and the World Council before it is approved, but the new procedure could be in place as early as the European Grand Prix at the Nurburgring next weekend.
The new format must now pass through the Formula 1 Commission and the World Council before it is approved, but the new procedure could be in place as early as the European Grand Prix at the Nurburgring next weekend.
The proposal should be ratified following the results of a fax vote this week.
The new system will see drivers compete for grid position in full race specification from 13:00 on Saturday afternoon, with the order of running decided by the result of the previous grand prix.
The current qualifying format has emphasised the disadvantage of running early in a session because of the aggregate still reflects a slow lap time in first qualifying.
Some of the faster runners, such as Giancarlo Fisichella have found themselves severely handicapped by running early, and have then taken a couple of grands prix to climb back to the front-end of the grid.
Teams were also believed to be unhappy that the Sunday morning qualifying session made race day's schedule far too hectic.
Onimusha
05-20-2005, 05:24 PM
now that's great news! big thanks for keeping us up to date expo :)
Conman
05-20-2005, 09:16 PM
I still prefer the two hour session of two runs ... 1st run based on the previous GP placings and the 2nd based on the reverse timings of the 1st Qualifying run .... like last year. What was wrong with that? The drivers could run their cars in qualifying trim and then set it up for race trim for the second run. It was strategic and exciting.
Next thing FIA will change is the cars all lined up in a single row and the drivers making a 100m dash for their cars to begin racing ... like in some motoGPs. :rolleyes:
Results of First Qualifying
1. 9 RAIKKONEN McLaren Mercedes M 1'13"644 163.272 Km/h
2. 5 ALONSO Renault M 1'14"125 + 0'00"481
3. 7 WEBBER Williams BMW M 1'14"584 + 0'00"940
4. 6 FISICHELLA Renault M 1'14"783 + 0'01"139
5. 10 MONTOYA McLaren Mercedes M 1'14"858 + 0'01"214
6. 8 HEIDFELD Williams BMW M 1'15"128 + 0'01"484
7. 16 TRULLI Toyota M 1'15"189 + 0'01"545
8. 14 COULTHARD RedBull Cosworth M 1'15"329 + 0'01"685
9. 11 VILLENEUVE Sauber Petronas M 1'15"921 + 0'02"277
10. 2 BARRICHELLO Ferrari B 1'16"142 + 0'02"498
11. 1 M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari B 1'16"186 + 0'02"542
12. 12 MASSA Sauber Petronas M 1'16"218 + 0'02"574
13. 15 LIUZZI RedBull Cosworth M 1'16"817 + 0'03"173
14. 20 FRIESACHER Minardi Cosworth B 1'18"574 + 0'04"930
15. 21 ALBERS Minardi Cosworth B 1'19"229 + 0'05"585
16. 18 MONTEIRO Jordan Toyota B 1'19"408 + 0'05"764
17. 19 KARTHIKEYAN Jordan Toyota B 1'19"474 + 0'05"830
Unofficial Results - Information: http://www.f1-live.com
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Starting grid:
1. RAIKKONEN McLaren 2m30.323s
2. ALONSO Renault 2m30.406s
3. WEBBER Williams 2m31.656s
4. FISICHELLA Renault 2m32.100s
5. TRULLI Toyota 2m32.590s
6. HEIDFELD Williams 2m32.883s
7. COULTHARD Red Bull 2m33.867s
8. M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari 2m34.736s
9. VILLENEUVE Sauber 2m34.936s
10. BARRICHELLO Ferrari 2m34.983s
11. MASSA Sauber 2m35.120s
12. LIUZZI Red Bull 2m37.152s
13. FRIESACHER Minardi 2m40.810s
14. ALBERS Minardi 2m42.206s
15. MONTEIRO Jordan 2m43.078s
16. KARTHIKEYAN Jordan 2m43.442s
17. MONTOYA McLaren 1m14.858s*
18. R.SCHUMACHER Toyota no time
* penalised for causing an avoidable accident on Saturday
Montoya stripped of his starting position
Juan Pablo Montoya will start from the back of the grid in Sunday's Monaco Grand Prix after Stewards deemed he was to blame for an accident during second practice on Saturday morning.
The Stewards said the McLaren Mercedes driver was at fault after he slowed down in front of Ralf Schumacher's Toyota, causing him to brake hard. This, in turn, forced Jacques Villeneuve and David Coulthard to become involved in a multiple collision.
The sport's governing body said in a statement 'Juan Pablo Montoya was driving unnecessarily slowly in a very fast part of the track and thereby caused a completely avoidable accident.'
But Montoya, who had finished fifth fastest in the later qualifying session, denied causing the incident and protested: "I am really disappointed that there was any action taken against it. I was going up the hill, following very close. Ralf got in front and nearly hit me and when I did that I moved in front of him. But the only reason I pulled in front was because I was behind Ralf and he slowed down. People assume I did a brake test but the only reason I moved was to avoid an accident. When I look at it the only person who didn't move out of the way of the accident was Coulthard."
"I am really frustrated because we are all working really hard and I thought I had a really good chance of having a successful race. It is very unfair."
Stewards said that video evidence was 'not very conclusive' and called for data to be presented to them from both the FIA and from on-board telemetry from Montoya's McLaren car. They said the data showed that Montoya slowed down 180 metres ahead of his normal braking point into the section and continued at the same speed he was running when he headed into of turn two.
In the statement they revealed: 'On Montoya's fast lap the speed at this point of the incident 'was 278.3km/h and in the lap involving the incident the speed was 86.4km/h.'
Both Coulthard and Schumacher provided independent statements that matched up, saying that they left the pits with Schumacher leading Coulthard when Montoya approached from the rear on a fast lap.
He was delayed 'in a minor manner' and the statement said both drivers stated he 'took exception to his lap being disturbed and subsequently drove unnecessarily slowly in a very fast part of the track.'
Villeneuve, who was also on a fast lap, was unable to stop and he hit the rear of Coulthard's Red Bull Racing machine, which then slewed into Schumacher's car while Montoya continued on unscathed.
Coulthard was happy Montoya was penalised for the incident. "Montoya gesticulated at Ralf just before turn three near the Casino and it ended in a multi-car pile-up."
Schumacher also protested and said: "I stayed well within the yellow lines and for whatever reason I held him up. Basically he brake tested me, and held me up. I am sure he didn't believe someone could crash but it just wasn't necessary."
Montoya admitted he had slowed down because his lap had been ruined but claimed his decision to brake at that point was made so that Villeneuve could get past to continue his flying lap. But McLaren team boss Ron Dennis, whose other driver Kimi Raikkonen is on provisional pole, said: "Juan Pablo will now be looking to finish in the top eight, which is not what this team is about, and it is disappointing. There is not an appeal process, so there is nothing we can do. It was in a practice session, which counts for nothing, and incidents are part of Grand Prix racing."
It was also a disastrous day for Schumacher, who will now have to start alongside Montoya at the back of the grid because he crashed into the barriers on his later flying lap in first qualifying.
Results from the 2005 Monaco Grand Prix
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1. 9 RAIKKONEN McLaren Mercedes M
2. 8 HEIDFELD Williams BMW M +13.8 secs
3. 7 WEBBER Williams BMW M +18.4 secs
4. 5 ALONSO Renault M +36.4 secs
5. 10 MONTOYA McLaren Mercedes M +36.6 secs
6. 17 R.SCHUMACHER Toyota M +37.1 secs
7. M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari B +37.2 secs
8. 2 BARRICHELLO Ferrari B +37.5 secs
9. MASSA Sauber Petronas M +1 lap
10. 16 TRULLI Toyota M +1 lap
11. 11 VILLENEUVE Sauber Petronas M +1 lap
12. 6 FISICHELLA Renault M + 1lap
13. 18 MONTEIRO Jordan Toyota B +3 laps
14. 21 ALBERS Minardi Cosworth B +5 laps
15. 15 LIUZZI RedBull Cosworth M DNF
16. 20 FRIESACHER Minardi Cosworth B DNF
17. 14 COULTHARD RedBull Cosworth M DNF
18. 19 KARTHIKEYAN Jordan Toyota B DNF
Kimi Raikkonen claimed a lights-to-flag victory in the Monaco Grand Prix for his second successive win this season.
Current Driver and Constructer World Championship Standings
Drivers:
1 Fernando Alonso 49
2 Kimi Raikkonen 27
3 Jarno Trulli 26
4 Mark Webber 18
5 Nick Heidfeld 17
6 Ralf Schumacher 17
7 Giancarlo Fisichella 14
8 Juan Pablo Montoya 14
9 Michael Schumacher 12
10 David Coulthard 10
11 Rubens Barrichello 9
12 Alexander Wurz 6
13 Jacques Villeneuve 5
14 Pedro de la Rosa 4
15 Christian Klien 3
16 Felipe Massa 2
17 Vitantonio Liuzzi 1
Constructers:
1 Renault 63
2 McLaren 51
3 Toyota 43
4 Williams 35
5 Ferrari 21
6 Red Bull 14
7 Sauber 7
It was a magnificent race by Raikkonen that Monaco grand prix, also Heidfeld was good.
EUROPEAN GRAND PRIX, NURBURGRING, 29 MAY 2005
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Creation date: 1951
First F1 Grand Prix: 29 July 1951
Grand Prix held: 34
Spectactor capacity: around 140000
Track length: 5.148 km
Number of laps: 60 (308.863 Km)
Number of corners: 15 (left:6) (right:9))
Top speed: 325 Km/h
Downforce setup: medium
Best lap: M. Schumacher - 1'29''468 (2004, Ferrari)
Record Pole: M. Schumacher - 1'28''351 (2004, Ferrari)
2004 Pole: M. Schumacher - 1'28''351 (Ferrari)
2004 Podium
1. M. Schumacher
2. R. Barrichello
3. J. Button
In its early days, (1925) the Nurburgring was 17.58 miles in length, and was a seemingly endless chain of ups and downs, with many twisting curves between pine trees.
The sixties saw many a world champion win here with the great Sir Stirling Moss win his last ever race in 1961 and Jackie Stewart overcame horrendous conditions in 1968 to take the win by a full 4 minutes. Pressure from Stewart about the safety of the track, prompted the changes that took place in 1970 when barriers were installed, and the track was widened.
1976 saw the Nurburgring discontinued after Nikki Lauder suffered horrific burns, and when it returned in 1984, it was very different. It was rebuilt alongside the old track, and was reduced to 2.822 miles, with only a few interesting corners. Once again the track was modified in 1986, to its now 2.831 miles.
1995 produced an outstanding race with Michael Schumacher in the Benetton, passing the Ferrari of Jean Alesi with only three laps to go, and 96 saw Jacques Villeneuve secure his first Formula One victory. Michael Schumacher will never forget the 97 race as his younger brother, Ralf, forced him into retirement on the first lap. Both McLarens blew engines within a lap of each other, leaving Villeneuve to take the win.
McLaren's Mika Hakkinen took the win in 98, even after a Ferrari front row on the grid, but 1999 saw a fantastic win by Stewart driver Johnny Herbert. In a wet/dry race, the Englishman handed the team their maiden victory and sadly, Johnny failed to repeat the performance before he retired from the sport a year later. 2000 was Schumacher's turn for success, followed home by both McLaren drivers, Mika Hakkinen and David Coulthard. Another victory came Michael's way in 2001 with Juan Pablo Montoya second, but it was the second Ferrari of Rubens Barrichello that stole the limelight in 2002 with teammate Michael Schumacher in second place.
Ralf Schumacher stormed to victory in the 2003 European Grand Prix, heading a Williams 1-2 ahead of team-mate, Juan Pablo Montoya. Ralf Schumacher won the race by a commanding 16.8 seconds, having taken the lead on lap 26 when Kimi Raikkonen's Mercedes-Benz expired. It was a doubly disappointing day for McLaren: David Coulthard spun to retirement just two-laps from the chequered flag following an intense battle with Fernando Alonso. Ferrari's Rubens Barrichello rounded off the podium standings.
Michael Schumacher took his third win in five years in 2004 as he led team-mate Barrichello across the line for another Ferrari one two result in what was their most dominant season. Takuma Sato qualified a fine second in his BAR Honda, but an engine failure ruined the Japanese driver's chance to challenge Ferrari and team-mate Jenson Button took the third position.
Grid Positions For Tomorrows European Grand Prix
1. 8 HEIDFELD Williams BMW M 1'30"081 205.735 Km/h
2. 9 RAIKKONEN McLaren Mercedes M + 0'00"116
3. 7 WEBBER Williams BMW M + 0'00"287
4. 16 TRULLI Toyota M + 0'00"619
5. 10 MONTOYA McLaren Mercedes M + 0'00"809
6. 5 ALONSO Renault M + 0'00"975
7. 2 BARRICHELLO Ferrari B + 0'01"168
8. 17 R.SCHUMACHER Toyota M + 0'01"311
9. 6 FISICHELLA Renault M + 0'01"485
10. 1 M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari B + 0'01"504
11. 12 MASSA Sauber Petronas M + 0'02"124
12. 14 COULTHARD RedBull Cosworth M + 0'02"472
13. 3 BUTTON BAR Honda M + 0'02"513
14. 15 LIUZZI RedBull Cosworth M + 0'02"561
15. 11 VILLENEUVE Sauber Petronas M + 0'02"810
16. 4 SATO BAR Honda M + 0'02"845
17. 18 MONTEIRO Jordan Toyota B + 0'04"966
18. 20 FRIESACHER Minardi Cosworth B + 0'05"873
19. 19 KARTHIKEYAN Jordan Toyota B + 0'06"111
20. 21 ALBERS Minardi Cosworth B + 0'06"158
aaagary
05-29-2005, 08:45 AM
Well I'm getting ready to watch this race. Frankly I'm trying to learn what the appeal is of this form of racing? It seems like just a test of high powered cars and mostly a battle of manufacturers. I'm giving it a chance but so far it's not nascar. The cars are awesome but the racing kind of sucks. Too hard to pass I say.
Results from the 2005 European Grand Prix
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1. 5 ALONSO Renault M 1h31'46"648
2. 8 HEIDFELD Williams BMW M + 0'16"567
3. 2 BARRICHELLO Ferrari B + 0'18"549
4. 14 COULTHARD RedBull Cosworth M + 0'31"588
5. 1 M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari B + 0'50"445
6. 6 FISICHELLA Renault M + 0'51"932
7. 10 MONTOYA McLaren Mercedes M + 0'58"173
8. 16 TRULLI Toyota M + 1'11"091
9. 15 LIUZZI RedBull Cosworth M + 1'11"529
10. 3 BUTTON BAR Honda M + 1'35"786
11. 9 RAIKKONEN McLaren Mercedes M 1 lap(s)
12. 4 SATO BAR Honda M 1 lap(s)
13. 11 VILLENEUVE Sauber Petronas M 1 lap(s)
14. 12 MASSA Sauber Petronas M 1 lap(s)
15. 18 MONTEIRO Jordan Toyota B 1 lap(s)
16. 19 KARTHIKEYAN Jordan Toyota B 1 lap(s)
17. 21 ALBERS Minardi Cosworth B 2 lap(s)
18. 20 FRIESACHER Minardi Cosworth B 3 lap(s)
19. 17 R.SCHUMACHER Toyota M DNF
20. 7 WEBBER Williams BMW M DNF
Heading into the first turn for the 59th and last time Kimi Raikkonen’s front right Michelin was badly flat-spotted, but it was the suspension that failed due to the tremendous vibration on his McLaren Mercedes sending the unfortunate Finn spinning wildly out of the race. Watching the action unfold from a second back, Fernando Alonso was undoubtedly smiling as he completed the lap and took his fourth victory of the season for Renault.
Current Driver and Constructer World Championship Standings
Drivers:
1 Fernando Alonso 59
2 Kimi Raikkonen 27
3 Jarno Trulli 27
4 Nick Heidfeld 25
5 Mark Webber 18
6 Ralf Schumacher 17
7 Giancarlo Fisichella 17
8 Juan Pablo Montoya 16
9 Michael Schumacher 16
10 David Coulthard 15
11 Rubens Barrichello 15
12 Alexander Wurz 6
13 Jacques Villeneuve 5
14 Pedro de la Rosa 4
15 Christian Klien 3
16 Felipe Massa 2
17 Vitantonio Liuzzi 1
Constructers:
1 Renault 76
2 McLaren 54
3 Toyota 44
4 Williams 43
5 Ferrari 31
6 Red Bull 19
7 Sauber 7
F1 NEWS
SCOTT SPEED GETS THIRD RBR SEAT
Red Bull Racing has confirmed that American Scott Speed will be the team’s third driver in the upcoming Canadian and United States Grands Prix.
The 22-year-old GP2 standout made a strong impression during a trial run at Silverstone today, virtually matching team leader David Coulthard for pace and narrowly shading Christian Klien.
Speed will take over Friday testing duties at the North American races from Vitantonio Liuzzi, who occupied the second race seat in the last four events but will now have a brief sabbatical.
SOUTH AFRICAN GP A STEP CLOSER
The prospects for Formula 1’s mooted return to South Africa appear to have taken a step forward with the involvement of an investment firm named African Renaissance Holdings (ARH), which has joined forces with the group putting together the bid.
ARH is a ‘black economic empowerment company’ with investment in fields as diverse as gaming, mining, telecommunications and food processing.
The company says it sees huge potential for the race in terms of stimulating tourism, job creation and industrial development.
Talk of reviving the South African Grand Prix was given credence last November when F1 commercial boss Bernie Ecclestone held meetings with the bid company and declared, “We are going to South Africa – it’s not a question of if, only when.”
However, the bid company has been unable to secure a firm financial commitment from the South African government to help meet the costs arising from the construction of a brand new circuit as well as the rights fees payable to Ecclestone’s Formula One Management company.
A stalemate appeared to have been reached, but the involvement of ARH may provide the necessary impetus to drive the project forward – not least because it raises the possibility of a street race in Durban as an alternative to a new purpose-built track.
ARH has dealings with a casino company which is playing a major role in the redevelopment of Durban’s Golden Mile beachfront area, and a grand prix through the city streets could fit the bill perfectly.
Whether or not the Durban idea materialises, bid chairman David Gant is confident that South Africa will reclaim its place on the F1 schedule.
“Formula One Management and Mr Ecclestone are extremely well disposed towards staging the event in South Africa and we are probably still looking at April 2008 as the date for the first race,” said Gant.
“Mr Ecclestone is comfortable with our proposals in respect of the financial model and management plans and would like to finalise things before the end of the year.
“It is really up to the South African government to decide whether they want to support this project or not.”
The South African Grand Prix was a staple of the world championship calendar in the 1960s to mid-1980s and was last held (at the popular Kyalami circuit near Johannesburg) in 1993.
WHELDON EYES F1 SWITCH
Victorious Indianapolis 500 driver Dan Wheldon admits he would love a move to Formula One, but only on his terms.
The 27-year-old became the first Briton to win US motorsport's biggest race since Graham Hill in 1966.
"Formula One is something I would love to do but I would not want to go there just to make up the numbers," he told the Daily Telegraph.
CANADIAN GRAND PRIX, MONTREAL, 12 JUNE 2005 :canada:
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Creation date: 1978
First F1 Grand Prix: 8 October 1978
Grand Prix held: 26
Spectactor capacity: around 100000
Track length: 4.361 km
Number of laps: 70 (305.270 Km)
Number of corners: 12 (left:5) (right:7)
Top speed: 348 Km/h
Downforce setup: low
Best lap: R. Barrichello - 1'13''622 (2004, Ferrari)
Record Pole: R. Schumacher - 1'12''275 (2004, Williams)
2004 Pole: R. Schumacher - 1'12''275 (Williams)
2004 Podium
1. M. Schumacher
2. R. Barrichello
3. J. Button
The Canadian Grand Prix was moved to Montreal in 1978, as Mosport Park was thought to be outdated and too dangerous. It was built around the site of Expo 67, and it is a mixture of street circuit and permanent road course. Downtown Montreal is only a stone's throw away.
One look at the circuit is enough to tell the story. This track breaks many a car. The first chicane catches out even the best of driver, then there is a kink leading into the Senna hairpin, which leads the left-right "s".
The first race held on this circuit showed a maiden victory for the local hero, Gilles Villeneuve. In 1982, the track was renamed in his memory, and saw tragedy when Riccardo Paletti was involved in an opening lap accident, running into the back of Didier Pironi's stalled Ferrari, an accident that claimed Paletti's life.
The strangest finish ever remembered at Montreal was when Nigel Mansell was leading, and celebrated a little too soon. He coasted to a halt and stalled the Williams, allowing a very surprised Nelson Piquet to win his last victory for Benetton.
Conman
06-11-2005, 08:11 AM
I an going to stick my neck out and make a prediction;
1. Michael Schumacher
2. Rubens Barrichello
3. Fernando Alonso
Basis of my positions is simply the performance factor in testing this week and their finishing positions in the last round. Schumi and Rubinho get to be in the last five cars out in qualifying and this will be a major boost to their starting track positions this time. Kimi will be strong to avenge a dissappointing show in Germany. Alonso i fear will have a tough time as he did last year. This circuit has never suited the Renault style set up and this track has always favoured Bridgestone runners. The one tyre rule is really going to be tested on this track, more than in Nurburgring. If Kimi and Fernando finished with such worned rubbers, they are going to be in serious trouble on Jaque's Father's Circuit.
*Edit OK, I have to eat my words ... Rubens blew his engine b4 qualifying! But the BARs are looking very competitive now! Button on pole! :eek:
Grid Positions For Todays Canadian Grand Prix
1. 3 BUTTON BAR Honda1'15"217
2. 1 M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari + 0'00"258
3. 5 ALONSO Renault + 0'00"344
4. 6 FISICHELLA Renault + 0'00"360
5. 10 MONTOYA McLaren Mercedes + 0'00"452
6. 4 SATO BAR Honda + 0'00"512
7. 9 RAIKKONEN McLaren Mercedes + 0'00"706
8. 11 VILLENEUVE Sauber Petronas + 0'00"899
9. 16 TRULLI Toyota + 0'00"984
10. 17 R.SCHUMACHER Toyota + 0'01"145
11. 12 MASSA Sauber Petronas + 0'01"444
12. 14 COULTHARD RedBull Cosworth + 0'01"673
13. 8 HEIDFELD Williams BMW + 0'01"864
14. 7 WEBBER Williams BMW + 0'02"532
15. 21 ALBERS Minardi Cosworth + 0'02"997
16. 15 KLIEN RedBull Cosworth + 0'03"032
17. 19 KARTHIKEYAN Jordan Toyota + 0'03"447
18. 18 MONTEIRO Jordan Toyota + 0'03"817
19. 20 FRIESACHER Minardi Cosworth + 0'04"357
Results from the 2005 Canadian Grand Prix
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1. 9 RAIKKONEN McLaren Mercedes M 1h32'09"290
2. 1 M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari B + 0'01"137
3. 2 BARRICHELLO Ferrari B + 0'40"483
4. 12 MASSA Sauber Petronas M + 0'55"139
5. 7 WEBBER Williams BMW M + 0'55"779
6. 17 R.SCHUMACHER Toyota M 1 lap(s)
7. 14 COULTHARD RedBull Cosworth M 1 lap(s)
8. 15 KLIEN RedBull Cosworth M 1 lap(s)
9. 11 VILLENEUVE Sauber Petronas M 1 lap(s)
10. 18 MONTEIRO Jordan Toyota B 3 lap(s)
11. 21 ALBERS Minardi Cosworth B 3 lap(s)
12. 16 TRULLI Toyota M DNF
13. 10 MONTOYA McLaren Mercedes M DISQUALIFIED
14. 3 BUTTON BAR Honda M DNF
15. 8 HEIDFELD Williams BMW M DNF
16. 4 SATO BAR Honda M DNF
17. 20 FRIESACHER Minardi Cosworth B DNF
18. 5 ALONSO Renault M DNF
19. 6 FISICHELLA Renault M DNF
20. 19 KARTHIKEYAN Jordan Toyota B DNF
The Chief
06-13-2005, 09:35 AM
The 27-year-old became the first Briton to win US motorsport's biggest race since Graham Hill in 1966.
didn't Mansel win it in '95 or '96? I could swear he did
didn't Mansel win it in '95 or '96? I could swear he did
Previous winners:
2005 Dan WHELDON
2004 Buddy RICE
2003 Gil de FERRAN
2002 Helio CASTRONEVES
2001 Helio CASTRONEVES
2000 Juan Pablo MONTOYA
1999 Kenny BRACK
1998 Eddie CHEEVER
1997 Arie LUYENDYK
1996 Buddy LAZIER
1995 Jacques VILLENEUVE
1994 Al UNSER Jr.
1993 Emerson FITTIPALDI
1992 Al UNSER Jr.
1991 Rick MEARS
1990 Arie LUYENDYK
1989 Emerson FITTIPALDI
1988 Rick MEARS
1987 Al UNSER Sr.
1986 Bobby RAHAL
1985 Danny SULLIVAN
1984 Rick MEARS
1983 Tom SNEVA
1982 Gordon JOHNCOCK
1981 Bobby UNSER
1980 Johnny RUTHERFORD
1979 Rick MEARS
1978 Al UNSER Sr.
1977 A.J. FOYT Jr.
1976 Johnny RUTHERFORD
1975 Bobby UNSER
1974 Johnny RUTHERFORD
1973 Gordon JOHNCOCK
1972 Mark DONOHUE
1971 Al UNSER Sr.
1970 Al UNSER Sr.
1969 Mario ANDRETTI
1968 Bobby UNSER
1967 A.J. FOYT Jr.
1966 Graham HILL
The Chief
06-13-2005, 07:25 PM
allright, I guess 2nd place was the best he got
USA GRAND PRIX, INDIANAPOLIS, 19 JUNE 2005
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Creation date: 1950
First F1 Grand Prix: 30 May 1950
Grand Prix held: 16
Spectactor capacity: around 250000
Track length: 4.192 km
Number of laps: 73 (306.016 Km)
Number of corners: 13 (left:4) (right:9)
Top speed: 350 Km/h
Downforce setup: medium
Best lap: R. Barrichello - 1'10''399 (2004, Ferrari)
Record Pole: R. Barrichello - 1'10''223 (2004, Ferrari)
2004 Pole: R. Barrichello - 1'10''223 (Ferrari)
2004 Podium
1. M. Schumacher
2. R. Barrichello
3. T. Sato
Prior to the 2000 event, the last time a Formula One Grand Prix was held in the United States of America was back in 1991 when it was held in Phoenix. The late great Ayrton Senna claimed victory in his McLaren on the 81 lap long circuit.
The year 2000 saw the F1 circus return to America as they took to the revamped Indianapolis Motor Speedway. The circuit was constructed from the famous oval that plays host to the NASCAR Brickyard race and the Indy 500 and the new layout is now just over 4 kilometres in length.
In the beginning of the Formula One World Championship the Indy 500 counted to the drivers overall placings in the drivers' title, but this came to an end after Jim Clark and Graham Hill won back-to-back Indy 500s for the Lotus team.
The new circuit utilised the existing oval including the main straight and turn one, the cars running in clockwise direction. Additional sections were constructed in the infield to create the type of circuit the F1 cars are used to driving on.
In a race that was completely new to all 22 drivers, Ferrari driver, Michael Schumacher dominated the event from start to finish. He led home a Ferrari one two for the first time on the new circuit, continuing his domination from early in the season. Up until this race, McLaren driver, David Coulthard was still in with a chance of victory, however he was taken out of contention and was forced to watch his dreams of taking the drivers championship vanish.
2001 was double world champion Mika Hakkinen's final victory before he retired, thrilling the American fans with his special finesse after weeks of sadness due to the tragic terrorist attacks earlier in the month. In 2002 Michael Schumacher dominated the weekend from start to, almost, finish, the Ferrari star slowing down on the final lap so that teammate Rubens Barrichello could catch up and the duo could cross the line with the smallest ever margin. The attempt failed and Barrichello crossed the line first by a fraction of a second.
The 2003 race definitely began in Kimi Raikkonen's favour as he stormed away from the rest of the field having started from pole position. The rain, though, was not greeted with smiles by the Michelin runners, who saw their advantage over the Bridgestone runners dissipate. As the laps wore down Montoya watched his Championship dream die (he retired after colliding with Barrichello) while Raikkonen saw his strength, but it was Michael who had the biggest smile as he crossed the line to clinch another victory.
2004 was not a classic event by any stretch of the imagination as the race was compromised by poor decision making from race control, culminating in some serious on-track incidents. Michael Schumacher won the race from Rubens Barrichello with no last lap incidents while Takuma Sato took his first career podium in his BAR Honda.
The first lap saw four cars eliminated from the proceedings before Fernando Alonso speared off the track and into the concrete retaining wall at the end of the straight. With debris on track the race continued and a lap later Ralf Schumacher suffered a tyre failure on the final right hander, slamming backwards into the wall.
Schumacher's injury would force him to miss much of the season, but more questions were asked of race control who even with Schumacher's BWM Williams stranded on track kept the race cars circulating. To add insult to injury at Williams, Juan Pablo Montoya was disqualified from the race on lap 57 of 73 for taking the spare car just second prior to the start of the race. For 2005, US race fans need a well run event as Ferrari chase its fifth win in six years at the brickyard.
Conman
06-18-2005, 02:12 PM
Cutting it tight eh, expo? 52 minutes to the green light? :lol:
I reckon the scarlet cars are gonna show up for this race again. This is another circuit that suits Ferrari's set-up. Their position at the end of the qualifying runs will suit them for a good starting grid slot but God forbid another start like the one last week! :rolleyes: Renaults went past them like they were going backwards!
If qualifying goes well and Ferrari start amongst the top 6, I think we'll see red on the podium again.
US GP pull-out threat over tyres
Seven teams could pull out of Sunday's US Grand Prix because of concerns about the safety of Michelin's tyres. Michelin has advised the teams not to race unless Ralf Schumacher's tyre failure in practice can be explained or new tyres are allowed to be used. Championship leaders Renault, McLaren, BAR, Williams, Red Bull, Toyota and Sauber all use Michelin tyres.
Ralf to miss GP following crash
Toyota's Ralf Schumacher will miss Sunday's US Grand Prix on medical advice after a puncture in Friday's practice caused him to crash. He was taken to hospital after the crash and was warned by FIA medical delegate Gary Hartstein not to compete, so his place goes to Ricardo Zonta.
Conman
06-18-2005, 02:56 PM
Its been a long time coming. Michelin have always been known for short-term life spans ... even in domestic use. Lucky for us they only make rubbers for the road! :D
Grid Positions for 2005 USA Grand Prix
1. 16 TRULLI Toyota [color=blue]M 1'10"625 213.681 Km/h
2. 9 RAIKKONEN McLaren Mercedes M 1'10"694
3. 3 BUTTON BAR Honda M 1'11"277
4. 6 FISICHELLA Renault M 1'11"290
5. 1 M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari B 1'11"369
6. 5 ALONSO Renault M 1'11"380
7. 2 BARRICHELLO Ferrari B 1'11"431
8. 4 SATO BAR Honda M 1'11"497
9. 7 WEBBER Williams BMW M 1'11"527
10. 12 MASSA Sauber Petronas M 1'11"555
11. 10 MONTOYA McLaren Mercedes M 1'11"681
12. 11 VILLENEUVE Sauber Petronas M 1'11"691
13. 38 ZONTA Toyota M 1'11"754
14. 15 KLIEN RedBull Cosworth M 1'12"132
15. 8 HEIDFELD Williams BMW M 1'12"430
16. 14 COULTHARD RedBull Cosworth M 1'12"682
17. 18 MONTEIRO Jordan Toyota B 1'13"462
18. 21 ALBERS Minardi Cosworth B 1'13"632
19. 19 KARTHIKEYAN Jordan Toyota B 1'13"776
20. 20 FRIESACHER Minardi Cosworth B 1'14"494
Jarno Trulli claimed Toyota's first pole position for Sunday's US Grand Prix as he saw off a late challenge from McLaren's Kimi Raikkonen.
RESULTS
1. 1 M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari 1h29'43"181
2. 2 BARRICHELLO Ferrari + 0'01"522
3. 18 MONTEIRO Jordan Toyota 1 lap(s)
4. 19 KARTHIKEYAN Jordan Toyota 1 lap(s)
5. 21 ALBERS Minardi Cosworth 2 lap(s)
6. 20 FRIESACHER Minardi Cosworth 2 lap(s)
All teams who race with Michelin tyres withdrew from the race because of fears of tyre safety.
Schumacher wins six-car Indy farce
Take nothing away at all from the efforts of all six driver’s who took part in today’s 73-lap US Grand Prix or Bridgestone who supply the tyres to the six runners, but the race at Indianapolis was simply a farce.
With the Michelin runners all retiring from the race at the end of the formation lap, Michael Schumacher drove a solid race to take the win from Rubens Barrichello, but there were no smiles at the end of the ninth round of the championship, not even from the race winners. The win was Schumacher’s first of the season with his last victory coming at Suzuka last year.
The two Ferrari drivers battled for the lead until the closing stages of the race with Schumacher leading early on but a long first stop as the crew examined the left rear Bridgestone dropped him behind Barrichello. The next set of pitstops saw Schumacher exit the pits at the same time as Barrichello dived into the apex at the first turn.
Two into one does not go and Barrichello widely took to the grass to avoid what would have been a very embarrassing collision. This handed the lead back to Schumacher, one he would keep to the end. The result moves Michael Schumacher up to third in the drivers’ championship with 34 points, while Barrichello moves up to join third in the standings.
One happy man at Indianapolis today was Tiago Monteiro who secured the final podium position in his Jordan Toyota from team-mate Narain Karthikeyan who did not have the pace to match his team-mate on this occasion. Christijan Albers finished in fifth position in his Minardi, the only driver to run a three stop strategy, ahead of team- mate Patrick Friesacher.
Joint statement from the Michelin runners
The following is a join statement from the Michelin runners who did not take part in the US Grand Prix at Indianapolis.
"The Michelin teams deeply regret the position that they have been put in today and would like to apologise to all the spectators, TV viewers, Formula One fans and sponsors for not being able to take part in today's USA Grand Prix.
Following Ralf Schumacher's accident on Friday morning, we were advised by Michelin that none of the tyres that were available to the teams could be used unless the vehicle speed in Turn 13 was reduced. Without this Michelin did not consider the tyre to be safe to be used for the race.
All the teams are confident in Michelin and trust their advice as we know they are competent and responsible and their written instruction to us not to race unless changes to the circuit were made was accepted.
After final data from Michelin became available at 06.30 on Sunday morning it became clear that Michelin were not able to guarantee the safety of the drivers. Numerous discussions and meetings took place to find a safe solution to the problem. Every possibility for the race to go ahead in a safe manner was explored. The only practical solution was for a chicane to be installed prior to Turn 13 and nine of the teams were prepared to run under these conditions even forgoing championship points or by allowing non-Michelin teams to take top positions on the grid.
Unfortunately all proposals were rejected by the FIA.
Safety is always the first concern of any team and the FIA. Regrettably the teams were obliged to follow Michelin's requirements not to race.
We are totally aware that the USA is an important market for Formula One and there is an obligation for Formula One to promote itself in a positive and professional manner. It is sad that we couldn't showcase Formula One in the manner we would have liked today."
Press Release
Michelin Teams
The Chief
06-19-2005, 07:14 PM
how on earth did this happen? I mean, I just don't get how michelin can experience so many problems in a particular track from one year to the next. Was it resurfaced or redesigned or something? or is the weather heavily at play? the US GP used be later in the season, didn't it. And how can they guarantee this won't happen next year, that's the main issue now.
Capitão Fantasma
06-19-2005, 07:42 PM
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cableguy
06-19-2005, 08:55 PM
yowzers... six cars... only six cars, and in the largest potential market there is... f1 will be fortunate to have a race here next year... the spectators were PISSED... that said, after reading all i could find, the right decision was made... pity the rules on tires completely suck... :(
i heard that the 2008 rules, which must be approved this year, include changes such as a single tire supplier and a return to racing slicks...
the problem, allegedly, has to do with turn 13 (turn 1 for the oval track) being banked... how this puts more stress on tires is completely beyond me... a banked turn is less of a turn than a flat turn, and as it is at the beginning of the straight, i fail to see how speed factors in that much... thumbs down to michelin for being crap, though...
Conman
06-20-2005, 01:16 AM
This has been a problem 18 months in the making. Michelin has been experiencing extreme trye wear since last season. The one tyre rule installed this year is definitely the nail in their coffin. The last four races have been extremely hard for them as circuit idiosynchrasy played havoc on their performance.
Too many times this year, Michelin has seen their cars finish with absolute slicks and several times, blowing out owing to much distress on the rubber and/or car parts. Their particular compound is not suitable for the one tyre rule expecially when drivers are only concerned with going flat out. Thus to preserve their tyres, the drivers have to be hard on the brakes and therein lies the next problem which has surfaced time and again this season with the Michelin runners. This was expecially evident in Nurburgring.
My guess will be that they will have the same problem by the time we get to Spa Francorchamps, which is well known for being a race of attrition after Canada. This car-breaker of a circuit will truly test their rubbers to the max as it is famous for being hard on the brakes and evil on the tyres.
I still insist that a one tyre change should be allowed to increase competitiveness and freedom to use some strategy.
cableguy
06-20-2005, 02:01 AM
is not the purpose of formula 1 to bring together the best machines and the best drivers on a track to compete for victory?? though i could not find a mission statement on the fia homepage, i have always understood this to be true... if i am wrong, this whole post is crap, if i am correct, the folks at fia should take a long hard look at it...
competition begets ingenuity... i am a great fan of competition, and believe it is the cornerstone of every racing body, even before the green flag waves... if the goal is to pit driver skill against driver skill, eliminate the different car manufacturers, and have one type of car driven by all the drivers... this is not the goal of formula one... building a competitive team requires deep pockets.. if some teams cant compete because of finances, they should look for money elsewhere or withdraw... rules shouldnt be made to save money, only to increase safety...
what happened at indy yesterday was the failing of a key manufacturer of a key component... this was most unfortunate, and i hope the michelin teams exact some sort of payback for that failing... i would sincerely hope what happened can be easily determined to be a breech of contract, and thusly, at the teams' discretion, enough to void said contract and release the teams to pursue bridgestone tires if they choose... a single tire rule could fix this problem, or it could lead to a complete cancellation of a race if said tire manufacturer couldnt deliver a safe and effective tire... i also believe fia should go back to no tire change limitations... new rubber at each stop if the teams want it... if you want safe, that would go a long way...
a couple years back the cart series cancelled a race (i believe at texas) because the cars were so fast, the drivers were having problems staying conscious... cancelling the race was the right call, but that was a huge hit to the series at a time which it was on the decline anyway... it is but a mere shadow of its once proud self, no longer allowed to race in the indy 500... disappointments and cancellations, regardless of the reason (excluding weather), are killers to a racong series.. it is my hope that f1 can continue to race in the USA, but i doubt they will see the indy motor speedway for a long time... not after what happened yesterday...
a point of curiosity... for whatever reason, we Americans dont much care for road racing... since i was but a little boy, i wondered what those f1 cars, supposedly the best racing cars on the planet, could do on an oval circuit... in my perfect world, the USgp would be on an oval track, and i am willing to bet that would instantly double or better the US audience, both in attendance and on tv... just once, so we can see what those cars can do... it would also be a change of pace for the f1 drivers... id like to see it once, with an option to renew... and i dont even care what track is chosen, though indy would be fun to watch...
michelin and the fia hurt f1 racing in the USA this weekend... it remains to be seen how bad... i hope this fence can be mended, but some serious housekeeping NEEDS to happen at fia...
if f1 is truly a contest of the best drivers and machines, the ONLY regulations that are needed are directly related to driver, crew, and spectator safety... let these manufacturers show what they are capable of... perhaps a US constructor might just come back... but first, they need a reason... wake up, fia, and either do what it is we think you do, or publicly announce that you are nothing but a cowardly bunch of bureaucrats that want an even playing field more than true greatness in auto racing in our time...
FIA SUMMONS MICHELIN TEAMS
The FIA has summoned the seven Michelin teams to a hearing of the World Motor Sport Council next Wednesday (June 29). The meeting is being held “further to events at the 2005 United States Grand Prix”, according to an FIA statement. It is anticipated that possible penalties for the teams who boycotted the Indianapolis race will be discussed at the hearing.
The FIA has already intimated that Michelin could be facing punishment for failing to provide a useable back-up tyre in advance.
Conman
06-20-2005, 09:08 PM
This is really becoming a farce within a farce ... it was FIA that didn't want to change the circuit to include one tiny chicane that would have solved all the problems. Michael Schumacher, upon walking the circuit (after learning about the Michelin runners' problems on Friday) motioned to put in a chicane at the corner in question. Had that been approved, all the runners would have had to slow down instead of taking corner 13 flat out and compromising their tyres, Bridgestone or Michelin. The French tyre maker concurred with Schumi and upon recieving nods from the other teams (ironically, Ferrari didn't agree), put the recommendation through only to have FIA blow it back in their faces.
Now the frogs want to make a bigger farce of a situation they failed to manage in the first place. This is getting out of control. All the motorsport bodies should boycott and neglect the FIA and start up their own governing authority. For too many years now, FIA have been shit. Time for a shift in power.
Teams hit with disrepute charge
The seven teams that pulled out of the US Grand Prix because of tyre safety concerns have been charged with bringing the sport into disrepute.
Renault, McLaren, Williams, Toyota, Red Bull, Sauber and BAR have all been summoned to appear at an FIA hearing in Paris on 29 June. In an identical letter sent to all teams, motorsport's governing body has charged them on several counts. These range from not having the right equipment to damaging F1's image.
In the letter, the FIA's sporting secretary general Pierre de Coninck told the team owners they had:
- "Failed to ensure you had a supply of suitable tyres";
- "Wrongly refused to allow your cars to start the race";
- "Wrongly refused to allow your cars to race subject to a speed restriction in
one corner which was safe for such tyres as you had available".
It went on to detail a more general accusation that the teams "combined with other teams to make a demonstration damaging to the image of Formula One by pulling into the pits before the start of the race".
The teams will face a further charge of contravening F1 protocol by not informing stewards of their intention not to race.
I think that this is all the fault of the FIA. These seven teams should tell them that if they are given any punishment then they will start there own racing series independent of the FIA.
Conman
06-23-2005, 02:24 AM
BMW realigns its Formula One involvement
Acquire a majority shareholding in Sauber
BMW to take over the running of Sauber in '06 BMW is striking out on a new path in Formula One. After acquiring a majority shareholding in the Swiss Sauber team, a BMW managed team will be contesting the Formula One World Championship as early as 2006.
This was decided by the BMW Board of Management on Tuesday. It means that, for the first time in company history, BMW will be competing independently in Formula One.
In parallel with that, based on the Board’s decision, the new structure with managerial and key positions, including the driver line-up, and the name of the new team will be worked out by the takeover date of 1st January 2006. Development of resources are being driven forward with urgency and immediate effect.
The team will present itself to the public at the beginning of 2006. The factory in Hinwil will continue to be operated as a legally independent Swiss company linked to BMW Motorsport.
The expansion of BMW’s Formula One involvement will not impinge on other BMW motor sport projects. In future, BMW will continue its commitment to touring car racing – both in the new World Touring Car Championship (FIA WTCC) and in leading individual events such as 24- hour races. Formula BMW with its four series in Asia, Britain, Germany and North America will also continue. This year it will feature a world final for the first time.
F1 NEWS
Michelin offers refund to US fans
Michelin has offered to refund the 120,000 spectators who bought tickets for the farcical US Grand Prix. The tyre company also offered to buy 20,000 tickets for the 2006 US Grand Prix to be given to this year's fans. A company statement read: "Michelin deeply regrets that the public was deprived of an exciting race and therefore wishes to be the first, among the different groups involved in the race, to make a strong gesture towards the spectators".
Guilty F1 teams await US GP fate
Motorsport's governing body the FIA has deferred judgment on the seven teams involved in the US Grand Prix fiasco. Renault, McLaren, Toyota, Williams, Red Bull, Sauber and BAR were found guilty on two of the five charges they faced at a hearing in Paris on Wednesday. The teams were found guilty of failing to ensure they had suitable tyres and wrongfully refusing to start the race. Penalties will follow on 14 September, giving the teams and tyre company Michelin time to repair F1's image.
FRENCH GRAND PRIX, MAGNY-COURS, 3 JULY 2005
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Creation date: 1991
First F1 Grand Prix: 7 July 1991
Grand Prix held: 14
Spectactor capacity: around 120000
Track length: 4.411 km
Number of laps: 70 (308.586 Km)
Number of corners: 11 (left:4) (right:7)
Top speed: 320 Km/h
Downforce setup: medium
Best lap: M. Schumacher - 1'15''377 (2004, Ferrari)
Record Pole: F. Alonso - 1'13''698 (2004, Renault)
2004 Pole: F. Alonso - 1'13''698 (Renault)
2004 Podium
1. M. Schumacher
2. F. Alonso
3. R. Barrichello
Situated in central France, Magny-Cours is the smoothest of all the circuits, boasting top-class pit facilities. It is full of slow turns, and hairpins, but many fans find little to get excited about, as it holds very little in the way of challenge.
The first Grand Prix held here was in 1991, when Nigel Mansell won for Williams, after a long battle with the Ferrari of Alain Prost. He won again in 92, in a wet/dry race, and in 93, Alain Prost made it three in a row for the Williams team.
Mansell had returned to Formula One briefly, and was there for the 94 race. Although he qualified on the front row of the grid, he failed to complete the race, and Michael Schumacher raced to victory, as he did again in 95. He wasn't lucky a third time, as his Ferrari blew up on the parade lap in 96, and Damon Hill took the win.
In 1997, Michael Schumacher raced the Ferrari home once again, with Heinz-Harald Frentzen coming in second. The following year saw the first Ferrari one-two victory in eight years as Michael Schumacher won again, followed home by teammate Eddie Irvine.
1999 saw Jordan driver, Heinz-Harald Frentzen take the victory in one of the best races at the French circuit. In constantly changing weather conditions, the German drove to victory, still unaware that he was actually driving with a broken kneecap due to an incident in the Canadian Grand Prix two weeks earlier.
McLaren driver David Coulthard got the best of the track and the other 21 competitors in 2000, the Scot taking victory ahead of teammate Mika Hakkinen and Ferrari driver, Rubens Barrichello. Michael Schumacher won for Ferrari in both 2001 and wrapped up his 5th world title with another win in 2002, the eleventh event on the calendar.
Williams dominated the 2003 edition of the race. Ralf Schumacher won the event, followed by his team-mate Juan Pablo Montoya. Michael Schumacher finished the race in third spot. Although the Ferrari driver made a relatively poor start, allowing Raikkonen to move ahead of him, he passed the Finn during the third - and final - pit stop of the afternoon.
Michael Schumacher was back to his winning ways in 2004 taking his seventh French Grand Prix triumph with Fernando Alonso finishing second in the Renault ahead of Rubens Barrichello who made a superb last lap pass on the red-faced Jarno Trulli in the second Renault.
French Grand Prix qualifying:
1 Fernando Alonso Renault 1min 14.412secs
2 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:14.521
3 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:14.572
4 Takuma Sato BAR 1:14.655
5 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 1:14.832
6 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 1:14.887
7 Jenson Button BAR 1:15.051
8 Juan Montoya McLaren 1:15.406
9 Felipe Massa Sauber 1:15.566
10 Jacques Villeneuve Sauber 1:15.699
11 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 1:15.771
12 Mark Webber Williams 1:15.885
13 Kimi Raikkonen McLaren 1:14.559*
14 Nick Heidfeld Williams 1:16.207
15 David Coulthard Red Bull 1:16.434
16 Christian Klien Red Bull 1:16.547
17 Narain Karthikeyan Jordan 1:17.857
18 Patrick Freisacher Minardi 1:17.960
19 Tiago Monteiro Jordan 1:18.047
20 Christijan Albers Minardi 1:18.335
* Raikkonen loses 10 places on the starting grid after qualifying third
Championship leader Fernando Alonso put himself in pole position to improve his Formula One stranglehold by qualifying fastest for the French Grand Prix. The Spaniard, who leads the driver's race by 22 points, gave Renault cause to celebrate on their home track with a time of one minute 14.442 seconds. Toyota's Jarno Trulli was second, with Kimi Raikkonen third, although the Finn will drop back 10 places on the grid.
Results from the 2005 French Grand Prix - sorry they are late
1. 18 5 ALONSO Renault M
2. 9 RAIKKONEN McLaren Mercedes M
3. 1 M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari B
4. 3 BUTTON BAR Honda M
5. 16 TRULLI Toyota M
6. 6 FISICHELLA Renault M
7. 17 R.SCHUMACHER Toyota M
8. 11 VILLENEUVE Sauber Petronas M
9. 2 BARRICHELLO Ferrari B
10. 14 COULTHARD RedBull Cosworth M
11. 4 SATO BAR Honda M
12. 7 WEBBER Williams BMW M
13. 18 MONTEIRO Jordan Toyota B
14. 8 HEIDFELD Williams BMW M
15. 19 KARTHIKEYAN Jordan Toyota B
16. 10 MONTOYA McLaren Mercedes M DNF
17. 21 ALBERS Minardi Cosworth B DNF
18. 20 FRIESACHER Minardi Cosworth B DNF
19. 12 MASSA Sauber Petronas M DNF
20. 15 KLIEN RedBull Cosworth M DNF
BRITISH GRAND PRIX, SILVERSTONE, 10 JULY 2005
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Creation date: 1950
First F1 Grand Prix: 13 May 1950
Grand Prix held: 38
Spectactor capacity: around 90000
Track length: 5.141 km
Number of laps: 60 (308.355 Km)
Number of corners: 14 (left:6) (right:8)
Top speed: 335 Km/h
Downforce setup: medium
Best lap: M. Schumacher - 1'18''739 (2004, Ferrari)
Record Pole: K. Raikkonen - 1'18''233 (2004, McLaren)
2004 Pole: K. Raikkonen - 1'18''233 (McLaren)
2004 Podium
1. M. Schumacher
2. K. Raikkonen
3. R. Barrichello
The first British Grand Prix was held here in 1948, and it was only meant to be a one off, as the track was originally an airfield. Giuseppe Farina won the first World Championship race in 1950 for Alfa Romeo.
In 1973, Jody Scheckter spun at Woodcote, the right hander that leads into pit straight, triggering a multiple pile up. The track had its first alteration in 25 years due to this, and they added a chicane at Woodcote for the 1975 race. This was also the track that saw Clay Regazzoni give Williams their first win in 1979.
In 1987, a complex at Woodcote replaced the chicane, and that year Nigel Mansell defeated his teammate, Nelson Piquet in one of the tracks best races. The track was rebuilt in 1991, followed by another major rebuild in 1994.
The British fans were overjoyed with Damon Hill's win in 94, with Johnny Herbert winning for Benetton in 95. Williams's driver, Jacques Villeneuve took home victory in both 96, and 97 while Michael Schumacher won in controversial circumstances in 98 when he took victory for the Ferrari team in pit lane.
1999 saw the German suffer a first lap accident that saw him sidelined until the second last race of the season with a broken leg. The accident that many fans say lost him the 1999 drivers crown. Back in action and raring to go, the German faced the circuit undaunted in 2000, determined not to let memories of his accident the year before deter him from the task at hand. He didn't win the event, McLaren driver David Coulthard took that honour ahead of teammate Mika Hakkinen, however Schumacher still stood on the podium albeit on the third step. Amid threats of the race being stricken from the F1 calendar due to constant traffic chaos, the 2001 event was won by Mika Hakkinen but Michael Schumacher was on the top step of the rostrum once again in 2002.
Ferrari's Rubens Barrichello clinched victory in the 2003 British Grand Prix, in a race which had been plunged into chaos by a kilt-wearing protestor who ran onto the track in the face of cars speeding past at 200 km/h. Colombian Juan Pablo Montoya, in a Williams was second, 5.4 secs behind, with Finn Kimi Raikkonen, in a McLaren, third.
Kimi Raikkonen stormed to Pole Position ahead of Rubens Barrichello and Jenson Button, but the 2004 British Grand Prix fell once again to Michael Schumacher and the Ferrari team. Raikkonen, revelling with the handing of the MP4-19B introduced two-weeks before, pushed hard for McLaren Mercedes, crossing the line just over two seconds behind Schumacher with Barrichello just a second further adrift.
British Grand Prix qualifying:
1. 5 ALONSO Renault M 1'19"905
2. 3 BUTTON BAR Honda M 1'20"207
3. 10 MONTOYA McLaren Mercedes M 1'20"382
4. 16 TRULLI Toyota M 1'20"459
5. 2 BARRICHELLO Ferrari B 1'20"906
6. 6 FISICHELLA Renault M 1'21"010
7. 4 SATO BAR Honda M 1'21"114
8. 17 R.SCHUMACHER Toyota M 1'21"191
9. 1 M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari B 1'21"275
10. 11 VILLENEUVE Sauber Petronas M 1'21"352
11. 7 WEBBER Williams BMW M 1'21"997
12. 9 RAIKKONEN McLaren Mercedes M 1'19"932 *
13. 14 COULTHARD RedBull Cosworth M 1'22"108
14. 8 HEIDFELD Williams BMW M 1'22"117
15. 15 KLIEN RedBull Cosworth M 1'22"207
16. 12 MASSA Sauber Petronas M 1'22"495
17. 19 KARTHIKEYAN Jordan Toyota B 1'23"583
18. 21 ALBERS Minardi Cosworth B 1'24"576
19. 20 FRIESACHER Minardi Cosworth B 1'25"566
* Raikkonen loses 10 places on the starting grid after qualifying third
It was close, but Championship leader Fernando Alonso claimed Pole Position for the British Grand Prix on merit as he put in a blistering lap in his Renault to top the timesheets less than three- hundredths of a second ahead of his nearest rival. As ever, Alonso’s rival was non-other than Kimi Raikkonen who set the second fastest time of the session, but starts back in 12th due to his engine change penalty from this morning.
Results from the 2005 British Grand Prix
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1. 10 MONTOYA McLaren Mercedes M 1h24'29"588
2. 5 ALONSO Renault M + 0'02"739
3. 9 RAIKKONEN McLaren Mercedes M + 0'14"436
4. 6 FISICHELLA Renault M + 0'17"914
5. 3 BUTTON BAR Honda M + 0'40"264
6. 1 M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari B + 1'15"322
7. 2 BARRICHELLO Ferrari B + 1'16"567
8. 17 R.SCHUMACHER Toyota M + 1'19"212
9. 16 TRULLI Toyota M + 1'20"851
10. 12 MASSA Sauber Petronas M 1 lap(s)
11. 7 WEBBER Williams BMW M 1 lap(s)
12. 8 HEIDFELD Williams BMW M 1 lap(s)
13. 14 COULTHARD RedBull Cosworth M 1 lap(s)
14. 11 VILLENEUVE Sauber Petronas M 1 lap(s)
15. 15 KLIEN RedBull Cosworth M 1 lap(s)
16. 4 SATO BAR Honda M 2 lap(s)
17. 18 MONTEIRO Jordan Toyota B 2 lap(s)
18. 21 ALBERS Minardi Cosworth B 3 lap(s)
19. 20 FRIESACHER Minardi Cosworth B 4 lap(s)
20. 19 KARTHIKEYAN Jordan Toyota B DNF
The battle for the victory in the British Grand Prix took a decisive step towards its conclusion at the very start of the 60-lap race as Juan Pablo Montoya made a fantastic start from third position on the grid to run side by side with pole sitter Fernando Alonso towards the Maggotts and Beckets turns where he nosed into the lead.
It was close throughout but in the end it was Montoya who took the race win, his first since Brazil last year, but just less than three seconds from Fernando Alonso who extends his championship lead over third placed Kimi Raikkonen by another two points to 26.
Alonso drove a good race but as he and many had feared, the McLaren Mercedes package was just a little too strong around the high speed Silverstone circuit.
Raikkonen drove perhaps the strongest race of anyone from 12th position on the grid thanks to his engine change penalty. The early laps saw the Finn slice his way up to eighth position only to find himself stuck behind Michael Schumacher who in turn was stuck behind Jarno Trulli who was again lapping off the pace in race conditions.
The first round of stops saw Raikkonen leapfrog both Schumacher and Trulli and he set about reducing the half-minute gap to the leaders. With aggressive driving and pure pace, Raikkonen emerged from the second round of pitstop in third position, closing the gap the leading duo to less than 15 seconds by the chequered flag. Perhaps as a mark of defiance, Raikkonen’s final lap of the race showed his raw speed as he lapped ways faster than anyone else had managed all race long.
Giancarlo Fisichella has a strong race until the second and final pit stop when he stalled the Renault for the second successive race losing the final podium position to Raikkonen. Fisichella chased Raikkonen hard but the damage had been done.
Jenson Button started the race from the front row in his BAR Honda, dropping to third from the outset and despite his best efforts, could not keep pace with the front runners. The first round of pitstops saw him lose out to Fisichella and in the second round of stops, he lost out to Raikkonen. He crossed the line over 20 seconds adrift of the second Renault.
Silverstone was not kind to the Ferrari team with Michael Schumacher finishing a whopping 75 seconds behind the race leader while Rubens Barrichello’s race was ruined by running a three stop strategy that saw him stuck behind his team-leader on track losing time when he could perhaps have run a great deal faster in clear air. Still, Ferrari picks up points with sixth and seventh positions.
Over at Toyota, Ralf Schumacher picked up the final point after a steady drive while Jarno Trulli continued his trend of showing great qualifying pace, but no pace at all in race conditions. As in Magny Cours, Trulli lapped between one and two seconds off the pace with the field bunched up behind him until the first round of stops. From that point onwards he slid backwards before banging in his fastest laps of the race in the closing stages. It is hard to understand that if he and the car has the pace to lap fast in qualifying and in the final laps of the race, why he does not do it for the majority of the race?
Felipe Massa finished in tenth position for Sauber Petronas ahead of Mark Webber and Nick Heidfeld who had another tough race for BMW Williams. David Coulthard and Jacques Villeneuve enjoyed a great scrap for 13th position with Coulthard eventually getting the position in his Red Bull while his team-mate Christian Klien chased Villeneuve valiantly across the line to take 15th.
Takuma Sato was classified 16th two laps down as the Japanese driver stalled his car as he approached the grid. We then had a comedy of errors as Race Director Charlie Whiting started the Grand Prix only to send out the Safety Car seconds later at the same time as Sato’s BAR was cleared from the grid.
Tiago Monteiro finished his 11th straight race for Jordan Toyota while his team-mate Narain Karthikeyan was an early retirement and in fact the only retirement in the field. At the back, Christijan Albers and Patrick Freisacher finished three and four laps down respectively for Minardi.
Formula One has a chance to regroup and to test before reconvening at Hockenheim in two weeks time for the German Grand Prix. Alonso will sleep pretty well tonight with his 26 points lead.
Da' Legend
07-12-2005, 12:01 AM
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07-12-2005, 12:33 AM
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Results from the 2005 German Grand Prix
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1. 5 ALONSO Renault M 1h26'28"599
2. 10 MONTOYA McLaren Mercedes M + 0'22"569
3. 3 BUTTON BAR Honda M + 0'24"422
4. 6 FISICHELLA Renault M + 0'50"587
5. 1 M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari B + 0'51"690
6. 17 R.SCHUMACHER Toyota M + 0'52"242
7. 14 COULTHARD RedBull Cosworth M + 0'52"700
8. 12 MASSA Sauber Petronas M + 0'56"570
9. 15 KLIEN RedBull Cosworth M + 1'09"818
10. 2 BARRICHELLO Ferrari B 1 lap(s)
11. 8 HEIDFELD Williams BMW M 1 lap(s)
12. 4 SATO BAR Honda M 1 lap(s)
13. 21 ALBERS Minardi Cosworth B 2 lap(s)
14. 16 TRULLI Toyota M 3 lap(s)
15. 11 VILLENEUVE Sauber Petronas M 3 lap(s)
16. 19 KARTHIKEYAN Jordan Toyota B 3 lap(s)
17. 18 MONTEIRO Jordan Toyota B 3 lap(s)
18. 20 DOORNBOS Minardi Cosworth B 4 lap(s)
19. 7 WEBBER Williams BMW M 12 lap(s)
20. 9 RAIKKONEN McLaren Mercedes M DNF
Fernando Alonso moved a great deal closer to the World Championship this afternoon at Hockenheim as the Renault star took his sixth victory of the season to move 36 points clear of Kimi Raikkonen in the championship standings. The story of the 67-lap German Grand Prix in many ways was of Raikkonen who dominated the race for McLaren Mercedes until a suspected hydraulics failure ended his race at mid-distance.
Alonso ran second from the outset behind Raikkonen with Jenson Button dropping from second on the grid to fourth behind Michael Schumacher. Raikkonen pulled out a commanding lead only for it to all go wrong once again. This gave Alonso a comfortable lead and one he would hold to the chequered flag on lap 67.
Juan Pablo Montoya started the race from the back of the field after his error in qualifying on Saturday. An aggressive few opening laps saw the Colombian carve his way through the field. The first round of stops moved him ahead of Giancarlo Fisichella and his second stop moved him ahead of Jenson Button and Michael Schumacher. Second position for Montoya was a great result given his qualifying problem and moves him fourth in the standings, but it was a race that McLaren Mercedes could have - should have – but did not win.
With Alonso the winner from Montoya, Jenson button claimed the final podium position after a solid afternoon’s work in the BAR Honda. The British driver made a slow getaway from the front row of the grid dropping his behind Michael Schumacher, but a great battle with the champion saw him regain the position at two-third distance to claim his first legitimate podium position of the season.
Giancarlo Fisichella qualified and finished in fourth position in the second Renault. The Italian’s race was compromised by a tough first lap that saw his Renault struck from behind by Takuma Sato. Fisichella had a good race in the closing stages, battling hard with Michael Schumacher to take fourth position in the closing stages to take his second consecutive fourth position.
With his rear Bridgestone’s badly worn, Michael Schumacher clung on to finish in fifth position having fought for so long to try and keep first button and then later Fisichella behind him. Having opted for the softer Bridgestone tyres, the final laps were a real struggle for the German.
Toyota salvaged a sixth position after a solid drive from Ralf Schumacher. Running a long first stint the younger Schumacher was able to move up into the points and chase his older brother across the line to being Toyota another valuable three points.
A great first lap from David Coulthard saw him move up the order. It was a position he would retain despite losing out to Ralf Schumacher in the second round of stops. Seventh position brings Red Bull Cosworth its first points since Montreal.
Felipe Massa secured the final points paying position for Sauber Petronas with a solid drive to eighth position while Christian Klien and Rubens Barrichello battled hard in the second Red Bull and the second Ferrari over ninth position, Klien taking the position.
Nick Heidfeld’s seventh position on the grid was a bit of a false dawn for BMW Williams. Running light at the start Heidfeld ran well, but the three stop strategy was not the way to go and the German finished a distant 11th way behind the Barrichello-Klien battle. Team-mate mark Webber also had a difficult race as he made contact with Takuma Sato at the first turn and then exiting the same turn he and Jarno Trulli got together. After a long stop for repairs, Webber struggled on and was classified last but one.
Takuma Sato had another race to forget in the second BAR Honda. The Japanese racer hit the back of Fisichella on the first lap and never really recovered from his stop for a new front wing and finished in 12th position. He remains the only driver with the exception of Robert Doornbos, not to score a point this year.
Christijan Albers finished in 13th position for Minardi while Jarno Trulli had pneumatic problems for much of the race, pulling off on the final lap and being classified in 14th position. Trulli did himself no favours at all in the race however as he was awarded a drive through penalty for some terrible blocking of Montoya who was trying to lap him. In fairness Trulli was battling hard with Heidfeld for position at the time, but it was some unaware driving from the Toyota driver.
Jacques Villeneuve had a very eventful race in his Sauber Petronas. It all started on lap one when Barrichello bumped him wide. Not long after Villeneuve and Roberto Doornbos got together losing yet more time. Villeneuve was then battling to pass Tiago Monteiro when the Portuguese racer made an error forcing Villeneuve and himself to the pits for repairs. A tough race for the former Champion who was classified three laps down in 15th.
Narain Karthikeyan survived the inevitable off track moments in his Jordan to finish in 16th with team-mate Monteiro recovering from his Villeneuve incident to finish 17th. Roberto Doornbos had a difficult Grand Prix debut and was final runner in 18th position.
With Alonso taking his sixth win of the season and Raikkonen failing to finish, the Spaniard has one hand on the drivers’ crown as the Formula One circus packs up and heads to Hungary for round 13 of the championship next weekend.
Earl ALEXANDER (http://www.f1-live.com)
Current Driver and Constructer World Championship Standings
Drivers:
1 Fernando Alonso 87
2 Kimi Raikkonen 51
3 Michael Schumacher 47
4 Juan Pablo Montoya 34
5 Jarno Trulli 31
6 Rubens Barrichello 31
7 Giancarlo Fisichella 30
8 Ralf Schumacher 26
9 Nick Heidfeld 25
10 Mark Webber 22
11 David Coulthard 19
12 Jenson Button 15
13 Felipe Massa 8
14 Alexander Wurz 6
15 Jacques Villeneuve 6
16 Tiago Monteiro 6
17 Narain Karthikeyan 5
18 Pedro de la Rosa 4
19 Christian Klien 4
20 Christijan Albers 4
21 Patrick Friesacher 3
22 Vitantonio Liuzzi 1
Constructers:
1 Renault 117
2 McLaren 95
3 Ferrari 78
4 Toyota 57
5 Williams 47
6 Red Bull 24
7 BAR Honda 15
8 Sauber 14
9 Jordan-Toyota 11
10 Minardi-Cosworth 7
Well, Raikkonen won the grand prix in Turkey. Damn Montoya let Alonso pass him. So the Spanish man will probably win the championship. :computer:
monkeyman
08-21-2005, 11:49 PM
well dispite Alonso running away with the championship, and although I am a Ferrari fan, I do have to say that the non-Bridgestone tire users should be held to a hefty penalty. Yes I know it was a long time ago, but I am from the US and I would have liked to see some sort of a race at Indy. It still makes me upset that teams blame Ferrari for not agreeing with the chicane. But anyway, did you see Shumacher today? He looked like he didn't care about the race until he had to get back out there for qualifying for the next race.
Dmoney
08-22-2005, 02:22 AM
One of my friends is a big McLaren fan and with me being a Renault fan, we are big rivals. I've said this to him and i'll say it to everybody else, "eventhough McLaren is a faster car than Ranault, that little mistake that they'll make, we'll be right there to punish em". Look what happend to Montoya on the Turkish GP, and just a few weeks ago Raikkonen had a flat spot and blew out his tyre, guess who was there to claim victory!!
Demonic
08-25-2005, 10:07 PM
In regard to Indianapolis outrage - a seller called 'automotivetrend' on eBay was doing some deal on Formex Motor Racing watches in time for the race weekend, but pulled the remaining auctions because of the outrage.
They had made a special Indianapolis GP logo thingy, and changed in to a 'Thumbs Down' image later on - never got time to save it to my PC though. Why can't the richest sport in the world solve a problem we all know solutions to?
Let's make this topic alive again. Raikkonen overtook Fisichella in a way that is one of the best of the season in the Japanese grand prix. Well done!
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08-09-2006, 11:14 AM
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