BJ4015 said:
Are you trying to tell me Dan Marino was a product of a system?
Phil Simms has 2 rings also does that make him a great quarterback?
Doug Williams and Trent Dilfer have Super Bowl rings are they great also?
Absolutly, Dan Marino is a one of the best ever. And yes, he was a product of the system in place. Does that take away from all of records? Hell No! To say that a Tom Brady is overrated and a system QB is just ludacris. Because every Quaterback is the product of a system. It's just some QB's have trouble with their systems or they are not very good. While others, master the ins and outs of their system, and those guys are the Great Ones. Do you think Drew Bledsoe is or was a good QB? He was in New England's System, How many rings does he have?
You are really reaching with the Doug Williams thing, Didn't Joe Gibbs win something like 3 superbowls with 3 different QBs. Why didn't you mention Mark Rypien or Joe Theismann. Do you think Coach Gibbs had a "System" in place?
Phil Simms, Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson and Jim McMahon are good QBs who have won some bling-bling because of the awesome defenses on their team. They were good enought to Get'er done, but not great.
Remember all those QB's you rattled off earlier, Manning, McNair, Farve, Vick and you can add Elway, Montana, Marino, Starr, Unitas, Bradshaw, Namath, Basically any QB you can think of. Thru the first 4 years of the career of every Quarterback that has ever played NFL football, Do you know who has the best Winning Percentage?
--------->Tom Brady .714<-------------