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Future of Politics

Well, the first in a long line of Republican congressman (and probably a few Democrats) is waking up in jail this morning.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060304...AJp24cA;_ylu=X3oDMTA5aHJvMDdwBHNlYwN5bmNhdA--

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4773160.stm

"A Republican congressman in the United States has been sentenced to eight years in jail for taking $2.4m (£1.4m) in bribes from a defence contractor.

Randy "Duke" Cunningham - a 64-year-old decorated Vietnam War pilot - pleaded guilty to conspiracy and tax evasion.

Cunningham accepted cash and gifts including a Rolls-Royce, a yacht and $40,000 Persian rugs in return for doing favours and awarding contracts."

He also sold one of his houses to a defense contractor for $1.7 million. When the contractor resold the house shortly after for $1 million, that raised a lot of eyebrows and really started the investigation that brought Cunningham down.

Cunningham was sentenced to 8 years and 4 months but don't worry about him. When he's done, he'll still have his congressional retirement package to fall back on.

And, believe it or not, this investigation had nothing to do with the Abramoff investigation. Thats far bigger.

And on a related note, in case you think the Senate was really interested in changing the status quo around Washington regarding influence peddling (they're not); the Senate voted yesterday to not create an independent panel that would oversee ethics problems. A related story:

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/13977611.htm

A few quotes:

"The House and Senate committees responsible for enforcing congressional ethics rules are paralyzed by internal conflicts and political discord, public-interest groups say.

The House committee barely met last year, and the Senate committee has not issued a public finding in a major case since Sen. Robert G. Torricelli (D., N.J.) stepped down in 2002 amid allegations that he had accepted cash and other gifts from a North Jersey businessman. Neither committee has opened a formal investigation into allegations of influence-peddling by lobbyist Jack Abramoff."
 
Looks like this port deal is blowing up in G.W.'s face quickly. Yesterday, the House Appropriations committee voted 62 to 2 to block the deal.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4784842.stm

That bill will be voted on by the full House as early as next week.

Bill Frist (R-TN and Senate Majority leader) is trying to block any vote in the Senate on the deal and trying to support Bush. But it appears that tactic won't last for long as he's considering a run for President and the rest of the Republicans are fleeing from Bush as fast as possible.
 
This is the political game. Republicans have to look strong on security. Doesn't matter as far as presidency though, if McCain runs McCain wins.
 
Duke E. Pyle said:
This is the political game. Republicans have to look strong on security.

No doubt about that. The Dems, for the first time in who knows how long, were appearing to be to the right of the Reps.

Doesn't matter as far as presidency though, if McCain runs McCain wins.

Ughhh, maybe, and probably. Still a bit early to tell though.
 
Duke E. Pyle said:
This is the political game. Republicans have to look strong on security.

Yea, first the Dems hated "Brownie" and the Reps stood up for him. Then he turns on Bush and suddenly the Reps hate him and the Dems think he's a victim.

Bush spends 4 years telling us everyone in the sand is a terrorist, now he wants us to understand that it's not that way. It is all politics. If one side says "black", the other says "white".

McCain would be a strong candidate...esp when the Dems really don't have a coalition to speak of.
 
With Delay gone it will insure a repulican win in november...he did the right thing, he took the fodder right out of the mouths of the left.
 
Tex,

Are there any polls yet? From what I hear he's got things redistricted so that a Rep couldn't loose that race. Is that what you see there?
 
Preferred User said:
Tex,

Are there any polls yet? From what I hear he's got things redistricted so that a Rep couldn't loose that race. Is that what you see there?

That my friend is wrong, the 22nd district is primarily comprised of democrats
 
Preferred User said:
But you said a Rep was sure to win. How does that work?

Easy, a large majority of registered dems in Texas are conservative in nature, not liberals. Remember this is Texas.
 
A friend sent me this so I'm not sure of its accuracy, but its pretty funny anyway. Supposedly, its the sign off from one of Bill Maher's recent shows.


Mr. President, this job can't be fun for you any more.

There's no more money to spend--you used up all of that. You can't start another war because you used up the army.

And now, darn the luck, the rest of your term has become the Bush family nightmare: helping poor people.

Listen to your Mom. The cupboard's bare, the credit cards are maxed out. No one will really speak to you anymore. "Mission accomplished."

Now it's time to do what you've always done best: lose interest and walk away. Like you did with your military service and the oil company and the baseball team.

It's time. Time to move on and try the next fantasy job.

How about cowboy or space man? Now I know what you're saying: there's so many other things that you as President could involve yourself in.

Please don't. I know, I know. There's a lot left to do. There's a war with Venezuela. Eliminating the sales tax on yachts. Turning the space program over to the church and Social Security to Fannie Mae. Giving embryos the vote.

But, Sir, none of that is going to happen now.

Why?

Because you govern like Billy Joel drives. You've performed so poorly I'm surprised that you haven't given yourself a medal.

You're a catastrophe that walks like a man.

Herbert Hoover was a shitty president, but even he never conceded an entire city to rising water and snakes.

On your watch, we've lost almost all of our allies, the surplus, four airliners, two trade centers, a piece of the Pentagon and the City of New Orleans.

Maybe you're just not lucky.

I'm not saying you don't love this country.

I'm just wondering how much worse it could be if you were on the other side.

So, yes, God does speak to you. What he is saying is:

Take a hint.
 
Looks like I'm not the only one thinking that G.W. Bush will go down in history as one of the worst Presidents in history. Rolling Stone magazine, in a recent issue, has a really interesting article by Sean Wilentz (a professor of history at Princeton) that assesses Bush's place in history.



http://www.rollingstone.com/news/pr...?has-player=unknown&version=0&show-guide=true

Sorry about the length of this, but there are so many interesting quotes that I just couldn't leave these out:

"Calamitous presidents, faced with enormous difficulties -- Buchanan, Andrew Johnson, Hoover and now Bush -- have divided the nation, governed erratically and left the nation worse off. In each case, different factors contributed to the failure: disastrous domestic policies, foreign-policy blunders and military setbacks, executive misconduct, crises of credibility and public trust. Bush, however, is one of the rarities in presidential history: He has not only stumbled badly in every one of these key areas, he has also displayed a weakness common among the greatest presidential failures -- an unswerving adherence to a simplistic ideology that abjures deviation from dogma as heresy, thus preventing any pragmatic adjustment to changing realities. Repeatedly, Bush has undone himself, a failing revealed in each major area of presidential performance."

"Instead of emphasizing any political, diplomatic or humanitarian aspects of a war on Iraq -- an appeal that would have sounded too "sensitive," as Cheney once sneered -- the administration built a "Bush Doctrine" of unprovoked, preventive warfare, based on speculative threats and embracing principles previously abjured by every previous generation of U.S. foreign policy-makers, even at the height of the Cold War. The president did so with premises founded, in the case of Iraq, on wishful thinking. He did so while proclaiming an expansive Wilsonian rhetoric of making the world safe for democracy -- yet discarding the multilateralism and systems of international law (including the Geneva Conventions) that emanated from Wilson's idealism. He did so while dismissing intelligence that an American invasion could spark a long and bloody civil war among Iraq's fierce religious and ethnic rivals, reports that have since proved true. And he did so after repeated warnings by military officials such as Gen. Eric Shinseki that pacifying postwar Iraq would require hundreds of thousands of American troops -- accurate estimates that Paul Wolfowitz and other Bush policy gurus ridiculed as "wildly off the mark.""

"While wiping out the solid Clinton-era federal surplus and raising federal deficits to staggering record levels, Bush's tax policies have necessitated hikes in federal fees, state and local taxes, and co-payment charges to needy veterans and families who rely on Medicaid, along with cuts in loan programs to small businesses and college students, and in a wide range of state services. The lion's share of benefits from the tax cuts has gone to the very richest Americans, while new business investment has increased at a historically sluggish rate since the peak of the last business cycle five years ago. Private-sector job growth since 2001 has been anemic compared to the Bush administration's original forecasts and is chiefly attributable not to the tax cuts but to increased federal spending, especially on defense. Real wages for middle-income Americans have been dropping since the end of 2003: Last year, on average, nominal wages grew by only 2.4 percent, a meager gain that was completely erased by an average inflation rate of 3.4 percent."

"According to the Treasury Department, the forty-two presidents who held office between 1789 and 2000 borrowed a combined total of $1.01 trillion from foreign governments and financial institutions. But between 2001 and 2005 alone, the Bush White House borrowed $1.05 trillion, more than all of the previous presidencies combined. Having inherited the largest federal surplus in American history in 2001, he has turned it into the largest deficit ever -- with an even higher deficit, $423 billion, forecast for fiscal year 2006."

"White House proposals for immigration reform and a guest-worker program have succeeded mainly in dividing pro-business Republicans (who want more low-wage immigrant workers) from paleo-conservatives fearful that hordes of Spanish-speaking newcomers will destroy American culture. The paleos' call for tougher anti-immigrant laws -- a return to the punitive spirit of exclusion that led to the notorious Immigration Act of 1924 that shut the door to immigrants from Southern and Eastern Europe -- has in turn deeply alienated Hispanic voters from the Republican Party, badly undermining the GOP's hopes of using them to build a permanent national electoral majority."

"The White House's sectarian positions -- over stem-cell research, the teaching of pseudoscientific "intelligent design," global population control, the Terri Schiavo spectacle and more -- have led some to conclude that Bush has promoted the transformation of the GOP into what former Republican strategist Kevin Phillips calls "the first religious party in U.S. history.""

"Bush's faith-based conception of his mission, which stands above and beyond reasoned inquiry, jibes well with his administration's pro-business dogma on global warming and other urgent environmental issues. While forcing federally funded agencies to remove from their Web sites scientific information about reproductive health and the effectiveness of condoms in combating HIV/AIDS, and while peremptorily overruling staff scientists at the Food and Drug Administration on making emergency contraception available over the counter, Bush officials have censored and suppressed research findings they don't like by the Environmental Protection Agency, the Fish and Wildlife Service and the Department of Agriculture. Far from being the conservative he said he was, Bush has blazed a radical new path as the first American president in history who is outwardly hostile to science -- dedicated, as a distinguished, bipartisan panel of educators and scientists (including forty-nine Nobel laureates) has declared, to "the distortion of scientific knowledge for partisan political ends.""

"Armed with legal findings by his attorney general (and personal lawyer) Alberto Gonzales, the Bush White House has declared that the president's powers as commander in chief in wartime are limitless. No previous wartime president has come close to making so grandiose a claim. More specifically, this administration has asserted that the president is perfectly free to violate federal laws on such matters as domestic surveillance and the torture of detainees. When Congress has passed legislation to limit those assertions, Bush has resorted to issuing constitutionally dubious "signing statements," which declare, by fiat, how he will interpret and execute the law in question, even when that interpretation flagrantly violates the will of Congress."

"The president's defenders stoutly contend that war-time conditions fully justify Bush's actions. And as Lincoln showed during the Civil War, there may be times of military emergency where the executive believes it imperative to take immediate, highly irregular, even unconstitutional steps. "I felt that measures, otherwise unconstitutional, might become lawful," Lincoln wrote in 1864, "by becoming indispensable to the preservation of the Constitution, through the preservation of the nation." Bush seems to think that, since 9/11, he has been placed, by the grace of God, in the same kind of situation Lincoln faced. But Lincoln, under pressure of daily combat on American soil against fellow Americans, did not operate in secret, as Bush has. He did not claim, as Bush has, that his emergency actions were wholly regular and constitutional as well as necessary; Lincoln sought and received Congressional authorization for his suspension of habeas corpus in 1863. Nor did Lincoln act under the amorphous cover of a "war on terror" -- a war against a tactic, not a specific nation or political entity, which could last as long as any president deems the tactic a threat to national security. Lincoln's exceptional measures were intended to survive only as long as the Confederacy was in rebellion. Bush's could be extended indefinitely, as the president sees fit, permanently endangering rights and liberties guaranteed by the Constitution to the citizenry."

"Having confused steely resolve with what Ralph Waldo Emerson called "a foolish consistency . . . adored by little statesmen," Bush has become entangled in tragedies of his own making, compounding those visited upon the country by outside forces."

* Everything in bold is the editors emphasis.
 
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Is this guy friends with any of the fuck'n wacko professors who praise the death of innocents in 9/11? I'm just wondering because these professors these days are going the same route as the catholic priests. Hell i hear they are even preaching, i mean teaching something about global warming as though it was law, and their students don't even realize that its a theory so they go on to preach it too. I hope you were more impressed by this broken record being featured in the rolling stone than you are by the tired words in it.
 
Duke E. Pyle said:
Is this guy friends with any of the fuck'n wacko professors who praise the death of innocents in 9/11?

Haven't heard a thing about these profs. What professors? My brother is a University professor and I haven't heard of any of his coleagues praising the deaths of 9/11. Where did you see this Duke?
 
Oh yeah, Fox News isn't a Republican mouthpiece at all.....

"WASHINGTON (AFP) - US President George W. Bush named conservative talk show host Tony Snow as his chief spokesman, the latest move in the continuing shakeup at the White House.

"I'm confident that Tony Snow will make an outstanding addition to this White House team," Bush said, telling reporters that the veteran journalist "understands the importance of the relationship between the government and those whose job it is to cover the government."

"He's not afraid to express his own opinions," Bush added. "I'm proud to welcome Tony as part of our team."

Snow replaces outgoing press secretary Scott McClellan, who was removed as part of a broader White House overhaul.

McClellan told reporters after the president's announcement that Bush and Snow discussed the job last week at the White House residence and that Snow, who accepted the job Tuesday, would assume the spokesman's duties in May.

The president noted that Snow -- known for his sometimes acerbic commentary and political positions to the right of many other broadcast journalists -- has at times found himself at odds with the president, whom he has considered to be NOT SUFFICIENTLY CONSERVATIVE on some issues."

The capitals are mine, this thing is just nuts. They're not even pretending anymore.
This could end up leading to some of the funniest press conferences ever. I look forward to May, to watch Fox News spin this even more.
 
Duke E. Pyle said:
Is this guy friends with any of the fuck'n wacko professors who praise the death of innocents in 9/11?

I did some research. I found one. There was a professor from Colorado, Ward Churchill (who most people in and out of academia considered a wacko too) who was running around saying just that. In fact in a paper he called the victims "little Eichmans" if you can believe that.

One does not make a trend. There are not professors running around praising the 9/11 victims. One professor wrote a paper. That's it. One (1).

An Army veteran blew up a federal building in Oklahoma with a Ryder truck full of fertilizer, but that does not mean there are army veterans running around blowing up federal buildings. There was one.
 
You haven't heard these stories about professors being recorded in the classrooms? Yes it's spreading like wildfire. Ha are you shocked since you are asking about it? Yes i've seen a couple of these goons on Hannity and Colmbs and its one of the few things they agree on. These guys are scum and no they are not isolated but when confronted they do whine like 10 year old school boys. I wonder if the lefty professors will join the righty baptist crazies and hold hands while they do speeches on how good it feels for a soldier to die. Oh and just because you could find 1 doesn't mean there is 1. I wouldn't be so quick to defend someone who doesn't give a fuck about you.
 
Duke E. Pyle said:
You haven't heard these stories about professors being recorded in the classrooms? Yes it's spreading like wildfire.
No I haven't. And if I have to turn on the cable network that let Bill O'Reilly manufacture his little "War On Christmas" scare, then I'm not going to see the wildfire.

EDIT: I did watch a piece of it on the net. I didn't see him praise the death of soldiers in that short piece, but I did see that he's an idiot. What I object to is finding two professors who are idiots on different topics in order to manufacture the impression that this is what education is about...and that we need to be wary of education. Oh, and I can still only find one professor who praises the death of innocents in 9/11.

Duke E. Pyle said:
Oh and just because you could find 1 doesn't mean there is 1.
I found the one for you. It's your allegation, you support it.
 
endymion said:
Oh yeah, Fox News isn't a Republican mouthpiece at all.....

"WASHINGTON (AFP) - US President George W. Bush named conservative talk show host Tony Snow as his chief spokesman, the latest move in the continuing shakeup at the White House.

endy,

I guess we have a new (and truer) definition of "Snow job".

and Duke,

You really need to quit watching that crap on Faux news. No one, with any degree of education, will take you seriously. Look up the term propaganda.
 
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