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Wrestling 2005

saeko nogami

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I rather see angle taking time like hogan used to do.Let's face it the product is becoming boring.Kurt is the best technical wrestler since the legendary bret hart.Giving time off to technical wrestling machines like angle and chris Benoit will benefit the product long term.It's people like angle and benoit who can give you a 60 min match like bret v/s shawn at wrestlemania 12.Vince is doing the right thing and he should give 2 million dollars to chris jericho to come back.I've been following wrestling since 1995 and apart from hogan,hall nash and a few others , big men are less entertaining than technical wrestlers, so protect kurt and get the boiler room matches back!!!!
 

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Justin Credible aka Pete Polaco has been fired from WWE.

Dave Meltzer reports that he got a fax message earlier this week from John Laurinaitis.
 

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Now that there's no major competitor like wcw or billionaire ted to trouble vinnie mac, he can fire his wrestlers anytime he wants without the risk of seeing them appear on prime time tv on monday nitro or thunder.There are a lot of wrestlers who got fired from wwe in 2005 and 2006.Credible is a good friend of scott hall, maybe he got in the face of wwe management razor ramon style or got drunk on a wwe show scott hall style!!!!!!!!
 

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As noted, ICP no showed this week's TNA tapings. They were supposed to start a feud with Team 3D leading to a match at Bound for Glory. With them no showing that idea has been dropped and TNA has decided not to use ICP.

Speaking of Team 3D, they have signed new one years deals with TNA
 

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To update on the situation with Justin Credible, he had already been written off by the company prior to his release earlier this week. It appears that Credible had no-showed an ECW taping and made no effort to communicate with WWE.

Credible had been calling different promoters this week looking for bookings prior to being informed via fax of his release from WWE by John Laurinaitis. WWE has yet to officially announce his release.
 

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SmackDown commentator John Bradshaw Layfield conducted an in-depth, up-close and personal interview with former RAW General Manager and head of WCW Eric Bischoff for WWE.com. The interview covers Bischoff's new book, Controversy Creates Cash, as well as a number of other hot topics. The interview was divided up into four parts and can be viewed now over at WWE.com.

In the first video, Eric Bischoff talked a bit about Lex Luger and his Nitro debut. A picture of Luger is currently the main centerpiece on WWE.com and the headline reads "Can't Draw A Dime". The headline is somewhat misleading as the interviewer, JBL, said that particular quote. Bischoff didn't really have anything negative to say about Luger, but JBL tried to egg him on by criticizing Lex himself.

Eric Bischoff also questions Paul Heyman's ethics in his new book. He talks about how Heyman always tried to paint him as the "bad guy." The headline reads "A Liar?" Also, both JBL and Eric Bischoff have some harsh words for Vince Russo in this video.

In the third video, Eric Bischoff questions giving Kevin Nash so much power in the interview. The headline reads "Big Lazy?"

In the final video, Eric Bischoff reveals his feelings about just who killed WCW. Was it Vince McMahon? The headline reads "WCW Killer?"
 

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WCW's bread and butter was obviously the NWO. The creation was when their ratings took off and their popularity trailed off when the NWO did.

Even the best storylines can only last for so long. They really tri ed to stretch it out at the end with the uber-gay "Wolfpack" and shit like that. So I don't think that Vince necessarily killed WCW, I think he just put them out of their misery.

Without the NWO, WCW would have been (and might still be) about the size of TNA and there never would have been a "war" at all.
 

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Cman said:
WCW's bread and butter was obviously the NWO. The creation was when their ratings took off and their popularity trailed off when the NWO did.

Even the best storylines can only last for so long. They really tri ed to stretch it out at the end with the uber-gay "Wolfpack" and shit like that. So I don't think that Vince necessarily killed WCW, I think he just put them out of their misery.

Without the NWO, WCW would have been (and might still be) about the size of TNA and there never would have been a "war" at all.

WOLFPACK WAS NOT UBER GAY:twisted: :mad:!And yeah id it wasn't for the nWo WCW would never become a rival company.Andyeah i thnik wcw kinda self destructed.Because during the late 90's WCW had the highedt rating.And had legendary charcters(Goldberg,Sting,DDP,nWo...).But after that they made a couople of stupid moves.Like they told Goldberg to smash a car window with his hand which led to goldberg being aout of action for a year(i think)doue to injuries on hs fist that nearly ended his carrer,they gave Russo the control over the company,the charters were getting stale and old nWo was breathing it's last breaths....and other numerous things.
 

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Wolfpack kicked ass. The Jeff Jarret silver and black nWo was uber gay. I remember reading way back when that Goldberg iprovised the window bashing, so he has no one to blame but himself. The Jeff Jarret nWo was uber gay.
 

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well obviously, the NWO grew way too big, it was very poor long term planning by the writers. Splitting it up into separate groups was a weak attempt at trying to salvage it, but it ended up killing it anyway.

What they should have done is not let it grow so big in the first place. Any group should never have more than 5 or 6 members.
 

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I agree that the nWo storyline did go a bit too long but who didn't love the LWO with Eddie Guerrero as Leader.
 

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The main problem with wcw was always that they never knew how to create characters.They just took stupid gimmicks like hugh morus for humorous, or captain e. rection, max muscle because he has big muscles and threw the wrestlers in the ring.They never created an aura around the characters.

WWF was always great at creating an aura around characters through vignettes, a real past to the characters,interviews by jim ross and wwf slowly put the wrestlers over with the crowd before giving them intercontinental title shots and then if they have star power they would get world title shots.Apart from sting and a few others, WCW was mainly unable to create fan captivating characters.

They compensated by giving 2 million to 4 millions dollars a year contracts to big name wwf stars like hogan, savage,nash,hall,hart.Those former wwf stars formed the leadership of nwo at first.The wcw ring was also too small for men with gigantic frames and for technical guys like hart.Most of bret's matches in wwf are great to watch.But most of his matches in wcw are painful to watch.Wcw brought bret hart and british bulldog to give a lethal blow to wwf programming.When they realised they failed they did'nt know what to do with hart, bulldog and turned neidhart into a jobber. WCW management also lacked a real leader .

Like savage said"too many indians and no chief ooooooooooooh yeaaaaaaaaaah".Ted turner only saw wcw as an investment.He did'nt knew much about rasslin.When the company was no longer profitable they made all the wrong decisions they could possibly make and wcw sinked faster tan the titanic ship.The only one to come out as a winner out of this sad ending is hogan as usual.He was able in wcw to succesfully evolve baby face character hulk hogan into evil heel character hollywood hogan while at the same time earning the maximum amount of money out of pro wrestling that a pro wrestler could ever dream of earning!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and all this whilst doing crappy z movies along the way.
 
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You have to remember one huge reason that WCW failed wasbecause of wwe. The WWE was red f'n hot. Sell outs at every arena, huge ratings, stone cold the rock, mick foley, all in their prime. Also WCW was so bad that people like Jericho, Malenko, Benoit, Big Show, were leaving huge contracts to work for wwe for less money. When your employees are doing that there isn't much that Bischoff or whoever was in charge could do.
 

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BeZerker2007 said:
I agree that the nWo storyline did go a bit too long but who didn't love the LWO with Eddie Guerrero as Leader.
lol, ok, that was kind of funny. but only because eddie was a funny character.

saeko nogami said:
The main problem with wcw was always that they never knew how to create characters.They just took stupid gimmicks like hugh morus for humorous, or captain e. rection, max muscle because he has big muscles and threw the wrestlers in the ring.They never created an aura around the characters.
dont forget about Disco Inferno!!! lol

as far as Hart goes, he was pretty much washed up by then anyway and as we know, has quite a few "personal issues", so it wasn't all WCW's fault
 

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Former WWE Diva Trish Stratus married her high school “sweetheart”, Ron yesterday. Several past and current divas attended the ceremony. Guests included Torrie Wilson, Lita, Maria, Lilian Garcia, Ashley Massaro, Ivory, and Victoria. The newlyweds will be honeymooning in Greece and then going to London.

RAW drew a really disappointing 3.4 rating last week and it seems the season premiere could not come sooner. ESPN's Monday Night Football scored a huge 11.8, the largest number in the ESPN history. WWE Officials are looking to see if the Cena/Edge Steel Cage match this week might give the ratings a much-needed boost, however with the feud already having stretched across the whole of the current year, it remains to be seen if there is any improvement on the ratings.

WWE really should watch out. TNA may start giving them some
competition. One can only hope!!!
 

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Tazz's current announcing contract with WWE expires at the end of this year. He is currently in the renegotiation process with WWE. According to reports, he also tried out for a satellite radio job as a possible fallback plan. Some feel he tried out so he could gain a better deal with WWE and has even reportedly offended some people by playing hardball with the company.

On another related announcing note, Jim Ross' contract with WWE expires next month. There is said to be little chance that he will be leaving WWE, especially now that the company realizes how important he is to the Monday Night Raw announcing team when attempts to sign Mike Goldberg away from UFC failed
 

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WWE's trying to get both Hulk Hogan and Steve Austin to appear at the 10/9 three-hour RAW special.
 

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And something tells me that the whole Austin/Hogan thing is going to backfire at wwe's faces !
 

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Papa Roach's single "To Be Loved" off their new album "Paramour Sessions" will be the new official opening theme song for WWE RAW each week on USA Network.

It's possible the new theme will debut tonight, although with next week's show being billed as the season opener, it'd make more sense that the song begins with that show.
That sucks I like the old song.
 
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