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Wrestling 2005

WWE development diva Krissy Vaine (Kristin Eubanks) made her WWE TV debut at the Smackdown/ECW tapings in Indianapolis. She did a run in during a Torrie Wilson-Victoria match. Vaine had recently been training with the WWE developmental group in Tampa.
 
I wish they could go back to the old days of the monday night wars..
 
Yea, If they had better story lines then maybe, cuz let's face it...they have better matches and wrestling talent, but they don't have enough charismatic superstars.
 
At first, TNA looked like an alternative to WWE, but for some time they look like they don't make any progress at all. Nothinhg new, nothing spectacular.
their good luck is that in WWE mr McMahon has a lot of very, but very stupid ideeas.
 
TNa have their Prime time slit and a two hour show but they just can't compair they dont have mike skilled talent that WWE does! As far as the glory days well I started watching in late 99 so as far as glory for me that would 2000 as you had the McMahon-Helmsley Era, then one great wrestlemania after another (16-20 were great, then Cena arrived!) and then the invasion which I enjoyed due to the faces that I had seen during my short lived "WCW fan" stage (shudder!)

Now wether you compair Kali to the big show or Cena to the Rock it doesn't matter who has what belt or wins what match to get where ever, they are the current wrestlers if 5 years or so new ones wil be there to fill their places. Vince can't live forever either what will wrestling become when he is no longer here to add creative jucies or to fuck it up big time.

As for WWE today well it has its highs and lows I still miss tag team matches that use to steal the show at many PPV's (Armaggedon last year brought back many memories of TLC from 2000!) But as with everything you have to except change and roll with them otherwise you get left behind. Life must change or it becomes boring.
 
I agree Phynix. I don't think that TNA has the amount of highly talented mic and in-ring workers that WWE does. I do think they have a small pool of talent that is as good as anyone in the 'E, like Angle, Christian, AJ, Samoa Joe, and maybe Stinger. Some people would put Jeff JArrett in there, I just was never a fan. WWE probably has 10 times the amount of top tier talent that that TNA has.

However, I do remember thinking that WCW was never going to make it because all their wrestlers were so old. (Wheel Chair Wrestling) BUt Bischoff, took an idea and ran with it. That idea (NWO) almost singlehandedly put the WWE into an early grave. Could ths happen with TNA? I hope so, we'll see.
 
okay...going down the list here, since I couldn't respond over the weekend.

--Yeah, the Raw-was-must-see thing makes sense. Situations were different then, being a singular brand, half the roster size, and reasonably stable competition...none of which holds true now...which is good & bad, depending on exactly what yer talkin' about.

--Show/Bossman was a top angle at the time. Hard to believe in hindsight, but that doesn't make it any less true. It was the feud they chose to cement Show as the WWE champion after he won the gold the first time, so I'd say that qualifies as the #1 or 2 angle at the time. Granted, it was funnier than the Cena's dad thing, but there were a lot of moments in there -- prior to Show's casket-surfing, of course -- that made it seem like it was originally intended to be serious. Kinda like the Katie Vick angle with Kane & HHH. And really...what about the Orton-kicked-Cena's Dad angle isn't utterly ridiculous?

--Zini, good to see you're still alive, amigo. lol

--TNA getting their game together would be great...but I don't think they'll be taken seriously in the way WCW was until they do any combination of the following:

1. get a directly competitive timeslot -- go against ECW, Smackdown or Raw.

2. Stop relying so heavily on pre-established stars like Angle, the Stieners, the Dudleys, and Sting, and put the company in the hands of their own capable talent like Christopher Daniels, Abyss, Samoa Joe, and AJ Styles.

3. Ditch the novelty ring and return to a standard ring. Novelty is great, but as we've seen with experiments like the 6-man tag titles, Cruiserweight Tag Titles, Hardcore titles, old ECW, and the Raw Bowl, it's not exactly good for longevity.

4. Stop dropping angles at seemingly random moments. I could rattle off examples until monkeys flew outta my ass here, but I'll save us all the time and effort by saying it's happened a LOT.

5. Find some stability in their respective divisions. The emphasis on the tag division & X-division shifts every few months, so that half the time one group is almost entirely in the background. It hurts the credibility of the athletes and the titles, and nobody benefits from it.

6. Convince the world they aren't WCW-lite. They bring in all these "names" and their original talent gets lost in the shuffle. WCW did almost the same thing, and it drove at least 6 of their bigger "original" stars out of the company (Show, Jericho, Guerrero, Benoit, Melenko, and Saturn.) Most of the guys they picked up from ECW -- exception of Mike Awesome & Lance Storm-- bailed and went back to ECW, and rumors were that Kidman & a handful of others were trying to get out of their contracts before the company folded anyhow. If TNA isn't careful, their going to lose the originals they have and suffer a similar fate.

--NwO...almost did in WWE, definately did in WCW.
 
The following is from PWInsider.com:

Details are still sketchy but the word coming from backstage at the Raw taping is that WWE champion John Cena is believed to have suffered a torn right pectoral muscle during his main event match against Ken Kennedy. He is tentatively scheduled to undergo a MRI tomorrow to examine the severity of the injury. I don't have to tell anyone reading this what a major blow this would be to the entire company if Cena needs to be out for any extended period of time.

The injury appeared to happen during a botched hiptoss on Kennedy that ended awkwardly with Kennedy landing atop Cena. Cena then nailed an armdrag. The two ended up in the corner, which led to a clean break. Cena backed up to the opposite corner and was obviously favoring his arm immediately. Cena gutted through the match and post-bout angle with Randy Orton, where he was laid out following a RKO on the announcer's table.

Cena is scheduled to main event the No Mercy PPV this Sunday in Chicago, Illinois against Orton in a Last Man Standing Man.
 
There's a problem. The WWE's dissatisfaction with Orton over the last year or two isn't exactly a secret. He's torn up hotel rooms and had at least 3 publically acknowledge issues with the WWE's Wellness Program. His name's been brought up publically in connection with the whole steroid scandal as well, and he's been suspended once this year from tv, and lost pay for his appearances another time. Not exactly the ideal guy to give the title to, considering the issues he's had with the company.

Then there's Cena, whom half the fans hate and the other half love, nursing an injury that -- if last night's match is any indication -- severely limits his moveset, including the FU & STFU. Hard to leave the title on him if he's got that sort of injury.

It's pretty sad, really, when the title picture is unpredictable not because of good story, but because of the stuff that's happening beyond the ring.
 
Hahaha. Orton's like a Rock star, possibly brugs and alcohol violations, destroying hotel rooms.

I think it' sfunny how the PWI calls Cena getting hurt as a major blow. That would be the best thing to happen. A torn pec however is osmething that is painful but can be played on. I remember many football players playing through the pain of a torn pec. I hop Cena is too pussy to wrestle with a torn pec for a long period of time.

Watching Raw last night I thought that we should start a campaign for people in the Audience to start holding signs that say simply:

We've
Cena
'Nuff!

What do you think?


Anymore news on the Jericho stuff?
 
From what I've heard Jericho will NOT be returning at No mercy apparently they want to drag it out as long as possible??? WHY?

Cena Injured...huh there is a god! Bye mate don't rush back yeah!

I wonder just who is worthy of have that belt around their waist? I mean I'd love to see Orton get it but he does have his personal demons that have stopped him many times in the past! Oh God No Please not Khali not again!

Oh fuck it give it HHH at least he deserves it and us fans love him, well I do!
 
CENA STRIPPED OF TITLE

I'm going to say this slowly: CENA STRIPPED OF WWE CHAMPIONSHIP

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. ? WWE Champion John Cena has suffered a complete tear of his right pectoral tendon and is heading into surgery, according to noted orthopedic surgeon Dr. James Andrews. Because of the seriousness of the injury, WWE officials will not allow Cena to compete this Sunday at No Mercy, and he will have no choice but to surrender the title.

Dr. Andrews said Cena could miss between six and eight months of action. Cena was injured during his match Monday night on Raw with Mr. Kennedy. Before visiting Dr. Andrews, Cena had said, ?No matter how serious, the injury, one way or another I?ll be ready to compete on Sunday.?

But despite Cena?s vow, WWE officials will not allow him to compete at No Mercy. Therefore, he must surrender the WWE Championship.

WWE officials vow that there will be a WWE Championship Match this Sunday at No Mercy and a new WWE Champion will be crowned.
 
That sucks Cena was stripped of the title instead of losing it but at least there will be a new champ and it's about damn time.

Anymore news on the Jericho stuff?

sort of

New Theory On Save_Us.222: Is It HBK?

The video tonight seemed to be more about HBK than Jericho. It said 8-2-11 alot. H being the 8th letter of the alphabet, B being second, and K being 11th. It also said grand slam, HBK being the first ever grand slam champ. The Savior thing could also have something to do with the ultra religious HBK. It also said big show and no one turns it up for a big PPV like the Showstopper. Last week I'd say was about Jericho, this week seemed to be about HBK.

and

More Clues and Hints on HBK/Jericho and "8.2.11"
Date Added: October 02, 2007
Story By: Marc Middleton

- Mike K. sent the following: There was a report that 8.2.11 stood for HBK as those are the numbers of the respective letters. However, in the Bible, the book of Joshua is where Jericho is discussed. In my Bible, in the 8th chapter, 2nd verse, "Jericho" is the 13th word. Not quite 11 but it could easily be the 11th word in another translation. Just thought I'd point that out.


- rcn3384 sent the following: Regarding your post about the new video being related to HBK with the numbers and all, it also says "GRANDSLAM" in the video, and Michaels was the first-ever Grand Slam Champion, capturing the European Championship once, the World Tag Team Championship four times, the Intercontinental Championship three times and the WWE and World Heavyweight Championships a total of four times, I believe. Jericho was also the 4th ever WWE Grandslam winner.


With the religon aspect it could very well be HBK but My money is still on Y2J.
 
Thanks Bobo. Would it be a big suprise that HBK is coming back? I mean, when he's healed he is coming back. Maybe together? That would be really cool. HBK and Y2J save th wwe toghether!

This is the kind of cool shit that I miss. I just hope there is a big payoff. I do a lot of fast forwarding through wrestling with my dvr so I could be wrong but I have noticed that the announcers have not acknowledged that the mystrerious video airs. Did you guys notice that?

I am trying not to get excited about the possibility of Cena being out for 6 months, it could be a cruel storyline swerve. Let's just keep our fingers crossed.


Who do you guys think would get the title shot at No Mercy if Cena can't wrestle?

HHH vs. Orton?
Kennedy vs. Orton?
Triple threat?

Maybe something will happen on ECW or Smackdick since the ppv is this weekend. Either way I think this injury is a blessing in disguise for the wwe, the fans and probably Cena in the long run as well. Again I hope this isn't a swerve.
 
My money is on Kennedy I mean I don't think they will throw away the HHH storyline that they've built in the last few weeks just to fill a whole, we know that hunter wil get the title at some point but they shouldn't panic and rush it. I feel that Kennedy has great mike skills and could flip to face so easily!
 
Definitely not HHH. My money is on returning HBK or Y2J or even Lashley. (hopefully they return :))
 
that myspace is fake

Chris Jericho Update; MySpace Fake, More
Date Added: September 25, 2007
Story By: Steve Carrier
- Thanks to the many readers who pointed this out...

Apparently the Chris Jericho MySpace is indeed fake. The photo that is on the MySpace of Jericho holding the picture with the MySpace URL in it is an old picture Jericho took when he had the MySpace URL originally. Several people have pointed out that Jericho had the URL canceled after his radio show was canceled, and some imposter picked up the URL later on.

Furthermore, the following comes from ChrisJericho.com:

Sept 3 - Remember that I am NOT on Myspace. There are many pages claiming to be mine but they are all lying.
I guess it's hard to tell what's legit and what's not on MySpace these days so you can pretty much disregard the earlier post I made on Jericho changing his MySpace headline.
 
Randy Ortons the Champion! I ca...Oh no wait HHH is the Champion and he's defending it against Umaga thats gonna b... Oh wait its over? HHH Won yeah! awesome! great! I Oh wait he's got defend it against Orton in...Oh Last Man Standing Oh well that should be go...I Oh wait Randy's in the Pedigree and RKO...9, 10!

Randy Orton is the WWE Champion!

BEST PPV OF THE YEAR!
 
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